And VFR pilots didst say unto the CAA "Give us the shekels so that we may train and fly under thine IFR rules". And, verily, the CAA said "Sod Off Brutus". Then Regional airports issued the edict "GA pilots can sod off from here too". And there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth. Lo and behold a stranger brought gifts called GPS and the VFR pilots said unto the CAA and regional airports "Up yours squire, we don't need you any more." And VFR pilots created many private strips and set up camp there and they were happy. bones -----Original Message----- From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Reynolds Sent: 11 September 2007 21:06 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Re: IVAO and Unwelcome ATC In the beginning there was VFR and the pilots did look and find this good and practice their flying in contented silence. But the powers were not happy and accidents they must avoid so the word was spoke and IFR didst they create and from their control rooms they did preach. Again the pilots did look and some were happy. But scism there was and the idol VFR would continue to be worshipped through-out the lands. The messengers were sent forth to preach the gospel IFR and the zealots did insist this be the one faith but still pilots continued to practise at the VFR alter and the old ways remain. Some tried putting up the fees to drive them out but land-owners did show them leigeance and the true faith did survive. Thus the enlightened did agree that both have their place but Heavy Metal zealots would seek to preach their word and disharmony would it cause with General Avaiation. A prayer be sent forth asking they be shown the error of their ways and harmony be restored through-out the IVAO lands. Word... <g> Paul -----Original Message----- From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerry Winskill Sent: 11 September 2007 20:33 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] Re: IVAO and Unwelcome ATC We'll have to spread the faith, or some such rubbish. Gerry Winskill FrankTurley@xxxxxxx wrote: > In a message dated 11/09/2007 20:20:55 GMT Daylight Time, > gwinsk@xxxxxxx writes: > > I must admit I hadn't thought of the possibillity it might be down to > lack of exposure to VFR. > > Gerry Winskill > > Gerry, > > I don't know about you, but when I fly VFR, I stick out like a sore > thumb on the Eye. > > I'm getting to appreciate why there's a lack of GA aircraft in the > library. IVAO appears to be predominantly for heavy metal flyers. > > Frank T.