[jhb] Re: IVAO and Unwelcome ATC

  • From: Chris Prophet <chrism.prophet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:06:57 +0100 (BST)

He shudnt contact you, its up to you if you want to contact him as you are VFR, 
only thing is as your departing a Controlled aerodrome may be worth calling 
him,. although if im doing an Area position i dnt call VFR unless they call me 
for something

Gerry Winskill <gwinsk@xxxxxxx> wrote:  Is there a mechanism for feeding 
comments and requests into IVAO?

I ask because just as I was about to join, for the odd 45 mins of local 
VFR flight in the IOM, I noticed that Scottish Control had just switched 
on. Past experience suggests he will contact me, insisting on giving 
clearances etc, despite my being VFR and despite my being outside his 
zone. When I mentioned this to him, a couple of weeks ago, he said that 
if London Control isn't covered then he handles this as well. So I've 
logged off. Why? Because it's nice to have the occasional low profile 
flight, without the sound of RT intruding into other rooms. It's also 
pleasant to be able to fly without reference to ATC, when the real world 
rules would be permitting this. If RW pilots could only fly under ATC 
control, then I guess there'd be fewer of them.

I appreciate the chap might mean well and might like to talk to flyers 
but a look at IVAPEye shows that he has 4 IFR flights in his area, or 
shortly to be in it.. If pilots, quite reasonably, have to obey the 
rules, then the same criteria should apply to controllers. Another very 
valid reason for not being enthusiastic about his unneccesary 
involvement is that we've assured our less experienced members that VFR 
flights, outside controlled airspace, will leave them not having to 
worry about ATC contacts until they feel they are ready. At the moment 
that should bear the caveat; provided it's in the South of England, 
where the London Controller reacts normally to VFR flights.

Any suggestions on who I might tactfully put this view to? Or reasons 
why others think I'm being unreasonable.

Gerry Winskill


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