[jhb] Re: FS Scenery
- From: "Fossil" <fossil@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:33:44 -0000
Depressing reading isn't it.
bones
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http://woodair.net
-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Mike Brook
Sent: 10 August 2011 19:54
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery
I've just Googled "Peter Tishma". Sheesh!
M.
-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Phil Reynolds
Sent: 10 August 2011 19:59
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery
Yeah, my brother-in-law (Reg "The Law") help us extract ourselves
from a
contract with Mr Tishma when we were doing the "VFR Scenery" stuff
for
FS98. A lucky escape...
Phil
On 10/08/2011 19:47, Gerry Winskill wrote:
> That was him. A trail of wreckage followed him.
>
> Gerry Winskill
>
> On 10/08/2011 19:40, Mike Brook wrote:
>> Aaah! The unlamented 'Papa Tango' aka Peter Tishma (or
similar).
>> WOT A ROGUE!! Hopefully he is languishing at Her Majesty's
>> pleasure somewhere (or maybe that is just wishful thinking on
my
>> part ...).
>>
>> Them was the days!
>>
>> MikeB
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
>> Sent: 10 August 2011 19:36
>> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery
>>
>> Like Mike, I've an idea he's now with Horizon / Playsims. He
was,
>> as you
>> say, dumped by Horizon, who then did the same to Darren, after
>> he'd got
>> his ideas into product form for them. After being ditched he
had
>> problems getting it accepted that parts of what they were using
>> were his
>> property. Subsequently he managed to set up ES and produces
much
>> better
>> work than his ex employer, though with a smaller geographical
>> photoscenery area available to him. He did in fact manage to
gain
>> an MOD
>> contract that his former boss was holding at the time.
>>
>> Whatever happened to the bandit who used to turn up at the
>> flightsim
>> shows in airline uniform?
>>
>> Gerry Winskill
>>
>> On 10/08/2011 19:25, Fossil wrote:
>>> I still feel Mally got dropped on from a big height when
Horizon
>> took over
>>> the photo scenery development. I hope he is doing enough to
>> survive now as
>>> he gave up full time work to develop the VFR scenery.
>>>
>>> I still find his web page at
>> http://www.visualflight.co.uk/photoscenery/ but
>>> most of the links seem dead.
>>>
>>> bones
>>>
>>> bones@xxxxxxx
>>> http://woodair.net
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf
>>> Of Mike Brook
>>> Sent: 10 August 2011 18:17
>>> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery
>>>
>>> .... but, luckily, the 'Darren' from the 'VFR Project' days is
>> the
>>> same 'Darren' who currently runs EarthSimulations! I have a
>>> feeling that Mally is still lurking somewhere in the
background
>> of
>>> Horizon/EarthSims but he has yet to stick his head above the
>>> parapet so I can't confirm ...
>>>
>>> M.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Fossil
>>> Sent: 10 August 2011 18:33
>>> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery
>>>
>>> This was one of the more successful developments by the UK VFR
>>> Project
>>> website and although they never got complete UK coverage the
>> work
>>> done was
>>> still impressive. I've just found the IoM files I submitted
for
>>> the project
>>> but they needed reworking because all the trees defaulted to
>>> conifers. AgenT
>>> should have sorted this out but that's when the PC died and I
>>> never finished
>>> the work.
>>>
>>> Oddly enough I've just found the UK VFR Library PDF showing
all
>>> the 3D
>>> objects Darren build and it's a sobering reminder just how
many
>>> cars, ships,
>>> houses and general objects he made. It's a shame the UK VFR
site
>>> closed
>>> down.
>>>
>>> bones
>>>
>>> bones@xxxxxxx
>>> http://woodair.net
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf
>>> Of Gerry Winskill
>>> Sent: 10 August 2011 16:58
>>> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery
>>>
>>> Now Treescapes is definitely worth having. I used not to be a
>> fan
>>> of
>>> Autogen, the MS version, but Treescapes is one of my better
>> buys.
>>>
>>> Gerry Winskill
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/08/2011 17:23, Fossil wrote:
>>>> Yep - it doesn't really sound that exciting so I'll check the
>>> website to
>>>> see if there is any compelling reason to think about buying
it.
>>>>
>>>> I saw Treescapes on the Earthsim site yesterday so will have
>>> another look.
>>>>
>>>> bones
>>>>
>>>> bones@xxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> http://woodair.net
>>>>
>>>> *From:*jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Paul Reynolds
>>>> *Sent:* 10 August 2011 16:02
>>>> *To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery
>>>>
>>>> I should have added that v3 is 'nice but not necessary' as
you
>>> have the
>>>> v1 -2 upgrade then v3 would require a new purchace of the
>>> complete set,
>>>> I'd opt fot EarthSim Treescapes instead, far better valur for
>>> money!
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> *From:* jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Paul Reynolds
>>>> *Sent:* 10 August 2011 16:59
>>>> *To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery
>>>>
>>>> v3 adds a new higher (60cm) resolution to some areas
and a
>>> few
>>>> models of some well known landmarks.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> *From:* jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of
>> *Fossil
>>>> *Sent:* 10 August 2011 16:47
>>>> *To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery
>>>>
>>>> I suspect the v2 disks are the free upgrade. I've
just
>>> opened
>>>> both sets for the first time and whilst the v1
cases
>> all
>>> have
>>>> product registration cards in them the v2 sets
don't.
>>>>
>>>> It seems odd opening them after all this time -
>> they've
>>> been
>>>> stuck away for years - and it might also surprise
>>> Horizon when I
>>>> activate them after all this time.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't know a third version was out so can I ask
>> why?
>>> What
>>>> have they done to make v3 necessary?
>>>>
>>>> bones
>>>>
>>>> bones@xxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> http://woodair.net
>>>>
>>>> *From:*jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of
*Paul
>>> Reynolds
>>>> *Sent:* 10 August 2011 10:22
>>>> *To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery
>>>>
>>>> You only need V2, it came with night lighting and
>> FS2004
>>> on it
>>>> which were absent on v1. I never purchased v1 so it
is
>>> clearly
>>>> not needed. If you have v2 because you were an
>> original
>>> v1 buyer
>>>> then v2 was issued free, if you purchased v2 then
you
>>> qualify
>>>> for the half price v3 upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> If I recall correctly, the difference between v1
and
>> v2
>>> was
>>>> night lighting and improved water masks (?)
>>>>
>>>> Paul.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> *From:* jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of
>>> *Frank Turley
>>>> *Sent:* 10 August 2011 08:02
>>>> *To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery
>>>>
>>>> Not absolutely positive about this, but I think
>> the
>>> version
>>>> 1 came in 2 flavours, FSX and FS2004, but they
got
>>> the
>>>> updates onto a single set. I guess you need to
>>> install the
>>>> version 1, followed by the updates.
>>>>
>>>> This all happened years ago............
>>>>
>>>> There's been rumours of FSX11 coming later this
>>> year, I
>>>> guess you will be getting that going in another
7
>>> years
>>>> time, I'm reminded of the 2 Ronnies sketch
where
>>> they did
>>>> Mastermind, with the answers lagging one behind
>> the
>>> questions!
>>>>
>>>> Frank T.
>>>>
>>>> At 00:16 10/08/2011, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Digging through the box of DVD's I have for FS
>>> reveals quite
>>>> a few scenery disks and my suspicion is that
many
>>> can go
>>>> straight in the skip. Before I do so can I
check
>>> that I'm
>>>> not throwing away the wrong boxes?
>>>>
>>>> First is the four box set of Visual Flight
photo
>>> scenery -
>>>> John's original release. I assume this was
>> replaced
>>> or
>>>> improved by Horizon GenX and that it isn't
worth
>>> installing.
>>>>
>>>> Next is the Horizon scenery but it is puzzling
me.
>> I
>>> seem to
>>>> have the original GenX three disk set but the
>> boxes
>>> say this
>>>> is for FSX only. I also have the GenX V.2 disk
set
>>> which
>>>> claims it is compatible with FS2004 as well as
>> FSX.
>>> If the
>>>> latter is true then I see no reason the install
>> the
>>> original
>>>> set and should also throw the original GenX
DVD's
>>> away too.
>>>>
>>>> Is this correct or are there any solid reasons
for
>>>> installing the Visual Flight scenery again or
the
>>> Generation
>>>> X V.1 scenery?
>>>>
>>>> As to flight sim itself I presume there isn't
any
>>> problem
>>>> installing FS2004 and then FSX -or would it be
>>> better doing
>>>> it the other way round? I seem to recall the
FSX
>>> install was
>>>> reported to mess up any FS2004 links..
>>>>
>>>> bones
>>>>
>>>> bones@xxxxxxx
>>>> http://woodair.net<http://woodair.net/>
>>>>
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