Even though the laptop couldn't run flight sim I tried to keep up to date with changes - that's why I got FSX early and the Horizon scenery disks. I also downloaded some stuff from the web and bunged the files on the external drive ready for such time I was able to install FS again. One problem is that I'm not sure what some of them do now and I suspect some are well out of date. I've a bunch of UK VFR Project files and they are definitely old hat but might be worth a quick check. I also see a Plan G zip in the folder but again it's from 2009 so also out of date. What seems more worthy of checking are some PMDG downloads and some FSX files. Obviously one is the SP1 update as it is called FSX_SP1_ENU.exe but I don't seem to have the SP2 update you mention. There is another file called FSXPlanner and I don't know what that is for as the zip only contains an MSI installer file. I guess I'll have to run that to see what it does. There is a final file just called FSXUpdate but it is puzzling. The properties show that it is a digitally signed file from Microsoft but the Details tab shows that the product name is Microsoft Flight Simulator X Photo Scen.. (the rest of the line blocked by the limited window width). File version is 11.0.0.28844 and copyright by Macrovision. It is dated 2007 so might be a very early update.. bones bones@xxxxxxx http://woodair.net -----Original Message----- From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Fisher Sent: 10 August 2011 10:46 To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jhb] FS Scenery I have and use the original V1.0 Horizon scenery, many hours were spent downloading the updates for Mesh and Watermasks etc, these updates are too big to put on DVD unfortunately. I also have the free Nightlight disc to go with them. I never took advantage to upgrade to V2.0, which locks me out of the V3.0. (more expense which I resisted) The photo scenery has been rendered to AIO format at a huge 65gb, and growing when scenery updates include trees. Takes an hour or more to copy to a spare drive for backup. With shallow pockets, my expenditure on FS is only for FSC updates. If you have the V2.0s hang on to them. I have not had problems installing FS9 after FSX, done it several times. But there is a utility which restores the FS9 path if needed on the Justflight site. I suspect the new Microsoft Flight may be the death knell for Vatsim/IVAO, the FSX gaming mode has had an effect by making newcomers think it is the only way to fly online, as Gerry says, us oldies are probably going to be the last of the true online flyers. A pity, as I am only just getting into my stride. If installing FSX, do not forget to install the SP1 and 2, these essentially upgrade FSX to run in Vista/Win7 and 4 core, as well as clean out any bugs. The basic FSX was written initially for WinXP and single core. Frank