[jhb] Re: FS Scenery

  • From: Phil Reynolds <phil.reynolds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:18:47 +0100

Oh yeah, you'll find a lot on this guy, failed companies, bankruptcy, etc, etc,etc. Anyone remember a product called EFIS98? He signed a contract with the developer and tried not paying him. The developer was a young guy (can't remember his name at the moment) who was trying to fund himself through pilot school and the product was fantastic at the time. Happily Reg got involved and got him his dues...a truly nasty piece of work - Tishma, not Reg! 


Phil

On 10/08/2011 20:54, Mike Brook wrote:

I've just Googled "Peter Tishma".  Sheesh!

M.

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On Behalf Of Phil Reynolds
Sent: 10 August 2011 19:59
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

Yeah, my brother-in-law (Reg "The Law") help us extract ourselves
from a
contract with Mr Tishma when we were doing the "VFR Scenery" stuff
for
FS98. A lucky escape...

Phil

On 10/08/2011 19:47, Gerry Winskill wrote:

That was him. A trail of wreckage followed him.

Gerry Winskill

On 10/08/2011 19:40, Mike Brook wrote:

Aaah!  The unlamented 'Papa Tango' aka Peter Tishma (or

similar).

WOT A ROGUE!!  Hopefully he is languishing at Her Majesty's
pleasure somewhere (or maybe that is just wishful thinking on

my

part ...).

Them was the days!

MikeB

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On Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 10 August 2011 19:36
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

Like Mike, I've an idea he's now with Horizon / Playsims. He

was,

as you
say, dumped by Horizon, who then did the same to Darren, after
he'd got
his ideas into product form for them. After being ditched he

had

problems getting it accepted that parts of what they were using
were his
property. Subsequently he managed to set up ES and produces

much

better
work than his ex employer, though with a smaller geographical
photoscenery area available to him. He did in fact manage to

gain

an MOD
contract that his former boss was holding at the time.

Whatever happened to the bandit who used to turn up at the
flightsim
shows in airline uniform?

Gerry Winskill

On 10/08/2011 19:25, Fossil wrote:

I still feel Mally got dropped on from a big height when

Horizon

took over

the photo scenery development. I hope he is doing enough to

survive now as

he gave up full time work to develop the VFR scenery.

I still find his web page at

http://www.visualflight.co.uk/photoscenery/ but

most of the links seem dead.

bones

bones@xxxxxxx
http://woodair.net


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Of Mike Brook
Sent: 10 August 2011 18:17
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Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

.... but, luckily, the 'Darren' from the 'VFR Project' days is

the

same 'Darren' who currently runs EarthSimulations!  I have a
feeling that Mally is still lurking somewhere in the

background

of

Horizon/EarthSims but he has yet to stick his head above the
parapet so I can't confirm ...

M.

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On Behalf Of Fossil
Sent: 10 August 2011 18:33
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

This was one of the more successful developments by the UK VFR
Project
website and although they never got complete UK coverage the

work

done was
still impressive. I've just found the IoM files I submitted

for

the project
but they needed reworking because all the trees defaulted to
conifers. AgenT
should have sorted this out but that's when the PC died and I
never finished
the work.

Oddly enough I've just found the UK VFR Library PDF showing

all

the 3D
objects Darren build and it's a sobering reminder just how

many

cars, ships,
houses and general objects he made. It's a shame the UK VFR

site

closed
down.

bones

bones@xxxxxxx
http://woodair.net


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On Behalf
Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 10 August 2011 16:58
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

Now Treescapes is definitely worth having. I used not to be a

fan

of
Autogen, the MS version, but Treescapes is one of my better

buys.

Gerry Winskill


On 10/08/2011 17:23, Fossil wrote:

Yep - it doesn't really sound that exciting so I'll check the

website to

see if there is any compelling reason to think about buying

it.

I saw Treescapes on the Earthsim site yesterday so will have

another look.

bones

bones@xxxxxxx

http://woodair.net

*From:*jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On

Behalf Of *Paul Reynolds
*Sent:* 10 August 2011 16:02
*To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

I should have added that v3 is 'nice but not necessary' as

you

have the

v1 -2 upgrade then v3 would require a new purchace of the

complete set,

I'd opt fot EarthSim Treescapes instead, far better valur for

money!

Paul

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On

Behalf Of *Paul Reynolds
*Sent:* 10 August 2011 16:59
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*Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

       v3 adds a new higher (60cm) resolution to some areas

and a

few

       models of some well known landmarks.

       Paul

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*Fossil

           *Sent:* 10 August 2011 16:47
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           *Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

           I suspect the v2 disks are the free upgrade. I've

just

opened

           both sets for the first time and whilst the v1

cases

all

have

           product registration cards in them the v2 sets

don't.

           It seems odd opening them after all this time -

they've

been

           stuck away for years - and it might also surprise

Horizon when I

           activate them after all this time.

           I didn't know a third version was out so can I ask

why?

What

           have they done to make v3 necessary?

           bones

           bones@xxxxxxx

           http://woodair.net

           *From:*jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
           [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of

*Paul

Reynolds

           *Sent:* 10 August 2011 10:22
           *To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
           *Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

           You only need V2, it came with night lighting and

FS2004

on it

           which were absent on v1. I never purchased v1 so it

is

clearly

           not needed. If you have v2 because you were an

original

v1 buyer

           then v2 was issued free, if you purchased v2 then

you

qualify

           for the half price v3 upgrade.

           If I recall correctly, the difference between v1

and

v2

was

           night lighting and improved water masks (?)

           Paul.

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               [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of

*Frank Turley

               *Sent:* 10 August 2011 08:02
               *To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
               *Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

               Not absolutely positive about this, but I think

the

version

               1 came in 2 flavours, FSX and FS2004, but they

got

the

               updates onto a single set. I guess you need to

install the

               version 1, followed by the updates.

               This all happened years ago............

               There's been rumours of FSX11 coming later this

year, I

               guess you will be getting that going in another

7

years

               time, I'm reminded of the 2 Ronnies sketch

where

they did

               Mastermind, with the answers lagging one behind

the

questions!

               Frank T.

               At 00:16 10/08/2011, you wrote:

               Digging through the box of DVD's I have for FS

reveals quite

               a few scenery disks and my suspicion is that

many

can go

               straight in the skip. Before I do so can I

check

that I'm

               not throwing away the wrong boxes?

               First is the four box set of Visual Flight

photo

scenery -

               John's original release. I assume this was

replaced

or

               improved by Horizon GenX and that it isn't

worth

installing.

               Next is the Horizon scenery but it is puzzling

me.

I

seem to

               have the original GenX three disk set but the

boxes

say this

               is for FSX only. I also have the GenX V.2 disk

set

which

               claims it is compatible with FS2004 as well as

FSX.

If the

               latter is true then I see no reason the install

the

original

               set and should also throw the original GenX

DVD's

away too.

               Is this correct or are there any solid reasons

for

               installing the Visual Flight scenery again or

the

Generation

               X V.1 scenery?

               As to flight sim itself I presume there isn't

any

problem

               installing FS2004 and then FSX -or would it be

better doing

               it the other way round? I seem to recall the

FSX

install was

               reported to mess up any FS2004 links..

               bones

               bones@xxxxxxx
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