[jhb] Re: FS Scenery

  • From: Phil Reynolds <phil.reynolds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:59:22 +0100

Yeah, my brother-in-law (Reg "The Law") help us extract ourselves from a contract with Mr Tishma when we were doing the "VFR Scenery" stuff for FS98. A lucky escape... 


Phil

On 10/08/2011 19:47, Gerry Winskill wrote:

That was him. A trail of wreckage followed him.

Gerry Winskill

On 10/08/2011 19:40, Mike Brook wrote:

Aaah!  The unlamented 'Papa Tango' aka Peter Tishma (or similar).
WOT A ROGUE!!  Hopefully he is languishing at Her Majesty's
pleasure somewhere (or maybe that is just wishful thinking on my
part ...).

Them was the days!

MikeB

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 10 August 2011 19:36
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

Like Mike, I've an idea he's now with Horizon / Playsims. He was,
as you
say, dumped by Horizon, who then did the same to Darren, after
he'd got
his ideas into product form for them. After being ditched he had
problems getting it accepted that parts of what they were using
were his
property. Subsequently he managed to set up ES and produces much
better
work than his ex employer, though with a smaller geographical
photoscenery area available to him. He did in fact manage to gain
an MOD
contract that his former boss was holding at the time.

Whatever happened to the bandit who used to turn up at the
flightsim
shows in airline uniform?

Gerry Winskill

On 10/08/2011 19:25, Fossil wrote:

I still feel Mally got dropped on from a big height when Horizon

took over

the photo scenery development. I hope he is doing enough to

survive now as

he gave up full time work to develop the VFR scenery.

I still find his web page at

http://www.visualflight.co.uk/photoscenery/ but

most of the links seem dead.

bones

bones@xxxxxxx
http://woodair.net


-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

On Behalf

Of Mike Brook
Sent: 10 August 2011 18:17
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

.... but, luckily, the 'Darren' from the 'VFR Project' days is

the

same 'Darren' who currently runs EarthSimulations!  I have a
feeling that Mally is still lurking somewhere in the background

of

Horizon/EarthSims but he has yet to stick his head above the
parapet so I can't confirm ...

M.

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Fossil
Sent: 10 August 2011 18:33
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

This was one of the more successful developments by the UK VFR
Project
website and although they never got complete UK coverage the

work

done was
still impressive. I've just found the IoM files I submitted for
the project
but they needed reworking because all the trees defaulted to
conifers. AgenT
should have sorted this out but that's when the PC died and I
never finished
the work.

Oddly enough I've just found the UK VFR Library PDF showing all
the 3D
objects Darren build and it's a sobering reminder just how many
cars, ships,
houses and general objects he made. It's a shame the UK VFR site
closed
down.

bones

bones@xxxxxxx
http://woodair.net


-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf
Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 10 August 2011 16:58
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

Now Treescapes is definitely worth having. I used not to be a

fan

of
Autogen, the MS version, but Treescapes is one of my better

buys.


Gerry Winskill


On 10/08/2011 17:23, Fossil wrote:

Yep - it doesn't really sound that exciting so I'll check the

website to

see if there is any compelling reason to think about buying it.

I saw Treescapes on the Earthsim site yesterday so will have

another look.


bones

bones@xxxxxxx

http://woodair.net

*From:*jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On

Behalf Of *Paul Reynolds
*Sent:* 10 August 2011 16:02
*To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

I should have added that v3 is 'nice but not necessary' as you

have the

v1 -2 upgrade then v3 would require a new purchace of the

complete set,

I'd opt fot EarthSim Treescapes instead, far better valur for

money!


Paul

-----Original Message-----
*From:* jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On

Behalf Of *Paul Reynolds
*Sent:* 10 August 2011 16:59
*To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

      v3 adds a new higher (60cm) resolution to some areas and a

few

      models of some well known landmarks.

      Paul

          -----Original Message-----
          *From:* jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of

*Fossil

          *Sent:* 10 August 2011 16:47
          *To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          *Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

          I suspect the v2 disks are the free upgrade. I've just

opened

          both sets for the first time and whilst the v1 cases

all

have

          product registration cards in them the v2 sets don't.

          It seems odd opening them after all this time -

they've

been

          stuck away for years - and it might also surprise

Horizon when I

          activate them after all this time.

          I didn't know a third version was out so can I ask

why?

What

          have they done to make v3 necessary?

          bones

          bones@xxxxxxx

          http://woodair.net

          *From:*jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Paul

Reynolds

          *Sent:* 10 August 2011 10:22
          *To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          *Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

          You only need V2, it came with night lighting and

FS2004

on it

          which were absent on v1. I never purchased v1 so it is

clearly

          not needed. If you have v2 because you were an

original

v1 buyer

          then v2 was issued free, if you purchased v2 then you

qualify

          for the half price v3 upgrade.

          If I recall correctly, the difference between v1 and

v2

was

          night lighting and improved water masks (?)

          Paul.

              -----Original Message-----
              *From:* jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
              [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of

*Frank Turley

              *Sent:* 10 August 2011 08:02
              *To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
              *Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

              Not absolutely positive about this, but I think

the

version

              1 came in 2 flavours, FSX and FS2004, but they got

the

              updates onto a single set. I guess you need to

install the

              version 1, followed by the updates.

              This all happened years ago............

              There's been rumours of FSX11 coming later this

year, I

              guess you will be getting that going in another 7

years

              time, I'm reminded of the 2 Ronnies sketch where

they did

              Mastermind, with the answers lagging one behind

the

questions!


              Frank T.

              At 00:16 10/08/2011, you wrote:

              Digging through the box of DVD's I have for FS

reveals quite

              a few scenery disks and my suspicion is that many

can go

              straight in the skip. Before I do so can I check

that I'm

              not throwing away the wrong boxes?

              First is the four box set of Visual Flight photo

scenery -

              John's original release. I assume this was

replaced

or

              improved by Horizon GenX and that it isn't worth

installing.


              Next is the Horizon scenery but it is puzzling me.

I

seem to

              have the original GenX three disk set but the

boxes

say this

              is for FSX only. I also have the GenX V.2 disk set

which

              claims it is compatible with FS2004 as well as

FSX.

If the

              latter is true then I see no reason the install

the

original

              set and should also throw the original GenX DVD's

away too.


              Is this correct or are there any solid reasons for
              installing the Visual Flight scenery again or the

Generation

              X V.1 scenery?

              As to flight sim itself I presume there isn't any

problem

              installing FS2004 and then FSX -or would it be

better doing

              it the other way round? I seem to recall the FSX

install was

              reported to mess up any FS2004 links..

              bones

              bones@xxxxxxx
              http://woodair.net<http://woodair.net/>


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