[jhb] Re: FS Scenery

  • From: Gerry Winskill <gwinsk@xxxxxxx>
  • To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:36:12 +0100

Like Mike, I've an idea he's now with Horizon / Playsims. He was, as you say, dumped by Horizon, who then did the same to Darren, after he'd got his ideas into product form for them. After being ditched he had problems getting it accepted that parts of what they were using were his property. Subsequently he managed to set up ES and produces much better work than his ex employer, though with a smaller geographical photoscenery area available to him. He did in fact manage to gain an MOD contract that his former boss was holding at the time.
Whatever happened to the bandit who used to turn up at the flightsim shows in airline uniform? 

Gerry Winskill

On 10/08/2011 19:25, Fossil wrote:

I still feel Mally got dropped on from a big height when Horizon took over
the photo scenery development. I hope he is doing enough to survive now as
he gave up full time work to develop the VFR scenery.

I still find his web page at http://www.visualflight.co.uk/photoscenery/ but
most of the links seem dead.

bones

bones@xxxxxxx
http://woodair.net


-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Mike Brook
Sent: 10 August 2011 18:17
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

.... but, luckily, the 'Darren' from the 'VFR Project' days is the
same 'Darren' who currently runs EarthSimulations!  I have a
feeling that Mally is still lurking somewhere in the background of
Horizon/EarthSims but he has yet to stick his head above the
parapet so I can't confirm ...

M.

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Fossil
Sent: 10 August 2011 18:33
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

This was one of the more successful developments by the UK VFR
Project
website and although they never got complete UK coverage the work
done was
still impressive. I've just found the IoM files I submitted for
the project
but they needed reworking because all the trees defaulted to
conifers. AgenT
should have sorted this out but that's when the PC died and I
never finished
the work.

Oddly enough I've just found the UK VFR Library PDF showing all
the 3D
objects Darren build and it's a sobering reminder just how many
cars, ships,
houses and general objects he made. It's a shame the UK VFR site
closed
down.

bones

bones@xxxxxxx
http://woodair.net


-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf
Of Gerry Winskill
Sent: 10 August 2011 16:58
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

Now Treescapes is definitely worth having. I used not to be a fan
of
Autogen, the MS version, but Treescapes is one of my better buys.

Gerry Winskill


On 10/08/2011 17:23, Fossil wrote:

Yep - it doesn't really sound that exciting so I'll check the

website to

see if there is any compelling reason to think about buying it.

I saw Treescapes on the Earthsim site yesterday so will have

another look.


bones

bones@xxxxxxx

http://woodair.net

*From:*jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On

Behalf Of *Paul Reynolds
*Sent:* 10 August 2011 16:02
*To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

I should have added that v3 is 'nice but not necessary' as you

have the

v1 -2 upgrade then v3 would require a new purchace of the

complete set,

I'd opt fot EarthSim Treescapes instead, far better valur for

money!


Paul

-----Original Message-----
*From:* jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On

Behalf Of *Paul Reynolds
*Sent:* 10 August 2011 16:59
*To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

     v3 adds a new higher (60cm) resolution to some areas and a

few

     models of some well known landmarks.

     Paul

         -----Original Message-----
         *From:* jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
         [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Fossil
         *Sent:* 10 August 2011 16:47
         *To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
         *Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

         I suspect the v2 disks are the free upgrade. I've just

opened

         both sets for the first time and whilst the v1 cases all

have

         product registration cards in them the v2 sets don't.

         It seems odd opening them after all this time - they've

been

         stuck away for years - and it might also surprise

Horizon when I

         activate them after all this time.

         I didn't know a third version was out so can I ask why?

What

         have they done to make v3 necessary?

         bones

         bones@xxxxxxx

         http://woodair.net

         *From:*jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
         [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Paul

Reynolds

         *Sent:* 10 August 2011 10:22
         *To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
         *Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

         You only need V2, it came with night lighting and FS2004

on it

         which were absent on v1. I never purchased v1 so it is

clearly

         not needed. If you have v2 because you were an original

v1 buyer

         then v2 was issued free, if you purchased v2 then you

qualify

         for the half price v3 upgrade.

         If I recall correctly, the difference between v1 and v2

was

         night lighting and improved water masks (?)

         Paul.

             -----Original Message-----
             *From:* jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
             [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of

*Frank Turley

             *Sent:* 10 August 2011 08:02
             *To:* jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
             *Subject:* [jhb] Re: FS Scenery

             Not absolutely positive about this, but I think the

version

             1 came in 2 flavours, FSX and FS2004, but they got

the

             updates onto a single set. I guess you need to

install the

             version 1, followed by the updates.

             This all happened years ago............

             There's been rumours of FSX11 coming later this

year, I

             guess you will be getting that going in another 7

years

             time, I'm reminded of the 2 Ronnies sketch where

they did

             Mastermind, with the answers lagging one behind the

questions!


             Frank T.

             At 00:16 10/08/2011, you wrote:

             Digging through the box of DVD's I have for FS

reveals quite

             a few scenery disks and my suspicion is that many

can go

             straight in the skip. Before I do so can I check

that I'm

             not throwing away the wrong boxes?

             First is the four box set of Visual Flight photo

scenery -

             John's original release. I assume this was replaced

or

             improved by Horizon GenX and that it isn't worth

installing.


             Next is the Horizon scenery but it is puzzling me. I

seem to

             have the original GenX three disk set but the boxes

say this

             is for FSX only. I also have the GenX V.2 disk set

which

             claims it is compatible with FS2004 as well as FSX.

If the

             latter is true then I see no reason the install the

original

             set and should also throw the original GenX DVD's

away too.


             Is this correct or are there any solid reasons for
             installing the Visual Flight scenery again or the

Generation

             X V.1 scenery?

             As to flight sim itself I presume there isn't any

problem

             installing FS2004 and then FSX -or would it be

better doing

             it the other way round? I seem to recall the FSX

install was

             reported to mess up any FS2004 links..

             bones

             bones@xxxxxxx
             http://woodair.net<http://woodair.net/>


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