Re: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation
- From: "Robert Hebert" <roberthebert@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:27:31 -0800
Any way to get the speech and sounds manager working here?
E.G. Assign different voices/sounds to different progress bars.
The first guy to finish could pop out of the screen and bop you on the nose!
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From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation
I've also heard it in file transfer situations and while installing
software. In both cases I found it useful.
Gene
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From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation
> Thanks. That's more on the order of what I was trying to figure out. To
> tell the truth, I don't recall hearing this feature speak in many other
> environments besides Web page opening and email downloading. But if it's
> interfered with so easily by normal activities of the processor, what's
> the
> use of it even for those of us who find it helpful or at least amusing?
> ading
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:44 AM
> Subject: Re: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation
>
>
> Yes... and I think it's because the program lags behind while it speaks.
> Then there is a trigger that announces 100% when the task is finished,
> even
> if it hasn't gone through the entire sequence. The cause is probably
> higher
> processors.
>
> Gene
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:40 PM
> Subject: Re: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation
>
>
>> What would be the harm of some toggle or something to shut up the
>> inaccurate progress bar?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation
>>
>>
>>> Personally, I have no problem with this feature confusing or annoying
>>> me,
>>> although I respect the feelings of you and others who hate it. Fine.
>>> But
>>> my only question is this: When loading a Web page, or downloading
>>> email,
>>> for instance, the thing really seems to be kind of silly. I'll hear 1
>>> percent, then six per cent, or something, then all of a sudden 100 per
>>> cent.
>>> this has nothing to do with how I might set it to announce progress at
>>> this
>>> or that interval. No. This isn't what I'm describing. What happens is
>>> that it seems to start tracking progress, then lose focus or something,
>>> and
>>> then announce 100 per cent or, in the case of a Web page, the status
>>> line
>>> will say "done," sometimes. It simply doesn't seem to really work.
>>> It's
>>> this that I actually find annoying, not the chatter.
>>>
>>> I don't wish to argue about the chattering. I just want to know if
>>> anyone
>>> recognizes this problem I'm talking about.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Daniel
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bill" <bill.cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:05 AM
>>> Subject: jaws 6 .0 best feature bad implementation
>>>
>>>
>>> the jfw progress bar has been a long time coming considerring the
>>> competition had it for a long time.
>>>
>>> this feature is with out a doubt the biggest new feature in jfw 6
>>> excluding
>>> the ability to use remote desk top that cost extra.
>>>
>>>
>>> so for most of us the progress bar is the best thing jfw has to offer in
>>> way of new features in version 6.
>>>
>>> for the love of me the feature is poorly implemented.
>>>
>>> its designed to work automaticly, and in some places like windows update
>>> i
>>> actually like that.
>>>
>>> most of the time though it drives me crazy with constant chatter.
>>>
>>> so like most i turn it off.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the competition how ever does not have it work automaticly, for those
>>> not
>>> familiar with window eyes.
>>>
>>>
>>> for a very good reason, suppose you actually want to do something like
>>> multi tasking, wow what a novel idea.
>>>
>>>
>>> can you imagen a blind user who actually wants to download 2 things
>>> from
>>> 2
>>> differant sites at the same time.
>>>
>>> or a blind person using 2 differant programs that have the progress bar.
>>>
>>> do blind folks like that really exist.
>>>
>>> well yes they do freedom scientific.
>>>
>>>
>>> this means the progress bar leavs you more confused than helped.
>>>
>>>
>>> freedom scientific please give us a third manual option with a keystroke
>>> assigned to it
>>> so we can get feedback when we want feedback and only when we want it.
>>>
>>>
>>> in fact thats the whole idea behing scripting, more power allows for
>>> less
>>> chatter.
>>>
>>> so why a feature that does the opposite, giving to much feedback.
>>>
>>>
>>> bottom line this message was spurred on by the fact another jfw user
>>> wanted
>>> to know if they can disable the chatter, the answer being yes and its
>>> also
>>> adjustable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> lets hope jfw6.1 fixes this glaring design flaw in what is a very good
>>> feature with a poor implementation.
>>>
>>> as it stands now just about every jaws user i know is turning that
>>> sucker
>>> off.
>>> the first weekthey think its great, second week its turned off.
>>>
>>> i have to admit i am some what surprised that they did not get some of
>>> the
>>> same feedback from their beta testers and fix this before shipping.
>>>
>>> lets hope they get the message and fix this flaw.
>>> lets hope a free 6.1 upgrade addresses it.
>>>
>>> curious if any body on this list actually likes this current
>>> implementation
>>> of this feature
>>> or would rather have a manual option they invoke when they want to
>>> invoke
>>> it.
>>> i have been waiting over a year for jfw to add this feature, and now
>>> that
>>> it has it i am still waiting for them to get it right.
>>>
>>> by the way i am asking for a manual option, its o k with me if jfw
>>> provides
>>> a 3 toggle option for those that like the automatic option
>>>
>>> so do not think i am suggesting getting rid of the current automatic
>>> feature, only adding manual for us that prefer that route.
>>>
>>>
>>> bill
>>>
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>>>
>>> At 04:25 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote:
>>>>Hi list. Well, I took the plunge and installed jaws 6.0 today and it
>>>>went
>>>>without problems. However, I have noticed that when loading a web page
>>>>or
>>>>downloading email that jaws keeps on saying 1 percent up to 100 percent
>>>>at
>>>>various intervals until everything is loaded. Is there a way to shut
>>>>this
>>>>up or do I just get use to it being a new feature in the 6.0 product.
>>>>
>>>>
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