Neville J Please allow me a dissenting view! The suggestion that the Moon has nothing to reflect off is simply wrong. You can read a book by its light on Earth a quarter million miles away on a clear Full Moon night. It has an albeido of 7%! Now if you were standing on it and there were scratches and dust on your visor, however small and/or sparse, the glare would certainly shut down your irises. But apart from that, and I think you may have the expertise to evaluate this suggestion, you don't have to be looking at a bright object in order for your irises to close down -- it is only necessary that light can enter your eyes from an object at any angle. I speak from the perspective of someone who both wears spectacles and sands wood. Paul D ----- Original Message ---- From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, 9 September, 2007 12:47:23 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Space Shuttle Pics Philip, Your post seems strangely geared toward sowing confusion and resisting progress. Perhaps you are on one of your Devil's Advocate trips, but please do not take such positions for the hell of it. The windows of the shuttle reflect light , just like in a railway carriage at night. Of course you would need to turn off the lights, or else press yourself right up against the glass. The Moon has no such effect, because there is nothing for the light to reflect off. Specifically, there is no atmosphere. Look away from the surface and there is no light entering your eye except from ... the stars. No one here is "grasping at straws." Why are you so reluctant to accept this NASA U-turn on seeing stars? Neville ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html