[geocentrism] Re: Space Shuttle Pics

  • From: "Jack Lewis" <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:27:41 +0100

Dear Paul,
I do understand exposure and light levels because I am interested in 
photography. Did you know that the astronauts claimed they couldn't even see 
the stars which is utter rubbish. If I can see them through an atmosphere then 
astronauts should see them with even more clarity. Neville once posted a NASA 
link to an artist's impression of what the stars would look like above the 
atmosphere even near the sun. Why did we need an artist's impression? Why not 
real photos by those who were there and are there on shuttle flights?
Why didn't the astronauts not take any photos of the stars when on the moon? It 
is incredible that they didn't. 
The conspiracy answer is that to show the stars would have meant painting them 
onto a backdrop and this would have been too difficult to do accurately and to 
reposition them for each subsequent visit to the moon. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Deema 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:04 PM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Space Shuttle Pics

  Jack L
  Please allow me to intrude. It's all about physics and the way your eyes 
respond to light. Try this experiment. You'll need access to a 500W QI lamp and 
a large white sheet and a rotary cloths line and a dark clear night at New 
Moon. Well it doesn't need to be rotary but these are the most common here in 
Oz; and while New Moon is best, most any time the Moon is below the horizon at 
night will do. Of course you won't want to be on the foreshore in Blackpool 
either -- I believe it's pretty well lit up there at night.
  The drill is this -- go out to the cloths line where you've hung the sheet 
and stand where you can see the stars but the sheet is just below your field of 
view. The lamp should be between you and the sheet and directed to shine 
directly on the sheet but so placed that none of its light shines directly into 
your eyes. It will help if your clothes line is hidden from street lights. Get 
used to the conditions -- a few minutes at least -- and have a willing 
assistant who is out of sight, turn on the lamp without warning and notice how 
the number of stars you can see diminishes. Then -- in your mind -- put 
yourself in full sunlight with no atmosphere and surround yourself with white 
and gold reflecting surfaces -- and think of how many fewer stars you would be 
able to see that if all those reflecting surfaces were absent.
  You could also try the reverse situation. It is said that you can see stars 
in full sunlight if you are at the bottom of a deep well. I don't know if it's 
true or not. However, if you don't have a well, two lengths of PVC 90mm storm 
water pipe painted dull black on the inside -- one for each eye -- may well do 
the trick. Arrange a light tight viewing aperture between your eyes and the 
pipes and look up, again allowing several minutes for your eyes to adjust. 
Again, I don't know if this will work but it sounds plausible.
  This whole exercise is about reducing to an absolute minimum, the light which 
can shut down your irises while maximising the opportunity for your retinas to 
collect enough of the faint light from the stars to register an impression.
  And remember -- cameras work on the same principles.
  Paul D

  ----- Original Message ----
  From: Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Thursday, 6 September, 2007 9:54:03 AM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Space Shuttle Pics

  But would the astronauts see stars? Armstrong said they couldn't - whose 
telling the truth?
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: philip madsen 
    To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:59 AM
    Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Space Shuttle Pics

    Stars or no stars depends on the exposure and shutter speed.  I would not 
expect to see stars in a photo, coz then the main object would be overexposed.. 
 wouldn't it?  


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