[geocentrism] Re: Space Shuttle Pics

  • From: "Jack Lewis" <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:56:55 +0100

Surely you don't really believe that they would ignore the stars? You didn't 
comment on NASA's artist impression of what the stars would look like above the 
atmosphere. 

Isn't that why they put the Hubble telescope up there so it would be free of 
atmospheric distortion?

Jack
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: philip madsen 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:35 PM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Space Shuttle Pics


  Why didn't the astronauts not take any photos of the stars when on the moon? 
It is incredible that they didn't. 
  The conspiracy answer is that to show the stars would have meant painting 
them onto a backdrop and this would have been too difficult to do accurately 
and to reposition them for each subsequent visit to the moon. Jack

  a valid point, but not necessarily a true one..  The last thing a real man on 
the moon would think is that anyone would not believe he was there..  and or 
that he would need to provide a star map photo to prove it ..  My main photo 
objectives would be of the moon and myself on it , wouldn't It? And of course 
bring back a sample stone or two...  which they did I m told, and shared 
around..  What happened to these? 

  Philip. 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jack Lewis 
    To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:27 PM
    Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Space Shuttle Pics


    Dear Paul,
    I do understand exposure and light levels because I am interested in 
photography. Did you know that the astronauts claimed they couldn't even see 
the stars which is utter rubbish. If I can see them through an atmosphere then 
astronauts should see them with even more clarity. Neville once posted a NASA 
link to an artist's impression of what the stars would look like above the 
atmosphere even near the sun. Why did we need an artist's impression? Why not 
real photos by those who were there and are there on shuttle flights?
    Question:
    Why didn't the astronauts not take any photos of the stars when on the 
moon? It is incredible that they didn't. 
    The conspiracy answer is that to show the stars would have meant painting 
them onto a backdrop and this would have been too difficult to do accurately 
and to reposition them for each subsequent visit to the moon. 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Paul Deema 
      To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:04 PM
      Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Space Shuttle Pics


      Jack L
      Please allow me to intrude. It's all about physics and the way your eyes 
respond to light. Try this experiment. You'll need access to a 500W QI lamp and 
a large white sheet and a rotary cloths line and a dark clear night at New 
Moon. Well it doesn't need to be rotary but these are the most common here in 
Oz; and while New Moon is best, most any time the Moon is below the horizon at 
night will do. Of course you won't want to be on the foreshore in Blackpool 
either -- I believe it's pretty well lit up there at night.
      The drill is this -- go out to the cloths line where you've hung the 
sheet and stand where you can see the stars but the sheet is just below your 
field of view. The lamp should be between you and the sheet and directed to 
shine directly on the sheet but so placed that none of its light shines 
directly into your eyes. It will help if your clothes line is hidden from 
street lights. Get used to the conditions -- a few minutes at least -- and have 
a willing assistant who is out of sight, turn on the lamp without warning and 
notice how the number of stars you can see diminishes. Then -- in your mind -- 
put yourself in full sunlight with no atmosphere and surround yourself with 
white and gold reflecting surfaces -- and think of how many fewer stars you 
would be able to see that if all those reflecting surfaces were absent.
      You could also try the reverse situation. It is said that you can see 
stars in full sunlight if you are at the bottom of a deep well. I don't know if 
it's true or not. However, if you don't have a well, two lengths of PVC 90mm 
storm water pipe painted dull black on the inside -- one for each eye -- may 
well do the trick. Arrange a light tight viewing aperture between your eyes and 
the pipes and look up, again allowing several minutes for your eyes to adjust. 
Again, I don't know if this will work but it sounds plausible.
      This whole exercise is about reducing to an absolute minimum, the light 
which can shut down your irises while maximising the opportunity for your 
retinas to collect enough of the faint light from the stars to register an 
impression.
      And remember -- cameras work on the same principles.
      Paul D



      ----- Original Message ----
      From: Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
      To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Sent: Thursday, 6 September, 2007 9:54:03 AM
      Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Space Shuttle Pics


      But would the astronauts see stars? Armstrong said they couldn't - whose 
telling the truth?
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: philip madsen 
        To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:59 AM
        Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Space Shuttle Pics


        Stars or no stars depends on the exposure and shutter speed.  I would 
not expect to see stars in a photo, coz then the main object would be 
overexposed..  wouldn't it?  

        Philip. 






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