[geocentrism] Re: Space Shuttle Pics

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:39:57 +1000

Neville has a point, unless there was a light inside their helmets, any direct 
gaze into open space away from the sun and any mountains, would present a black 
void, and the iris's would open to max. However why they would do that , unless 
the guy was astronomer enclined, escapes me..  Isn't there much too much more 
exciting things happening.. 

I am not by this denying a hoax possibility, but rather trying to dispense with 
all circumstantial evidence. It may be proven that faked movie productions were 
used for glamorous promotions of the mission, but this only proves a zeal for 
public approval. No one it seems has come up with any glaring faults in the 
original black and white TV transmissions re displaced shadows et al , have 
they? It is in these that a hoax must be proven for most to accept it. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Neville Jones 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:37 AM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Space Shuttle Pics


  My replies in red

    -----Original Message-----
    From: paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 17:26:33 +0000 (GMT)

    Neville J

    Please allow me a dissenting view! Certainly.

    The suggestion that the Moon has nothing to reflect off is simply wrong. 
You can read a book by its light on Earth a quarter million miles away on a 
clear Full Moon night. It has an albeido of 7%! The fact that the Moon reflects 
light does not alter the fact that the Moon's (reflected) light has nothing to 
reflect off. The albedo has nothing to do with what I am saying. There are no 
clouds, no trees, no buildings, and there is no atmosphere.

    Now if you were standing on it and there were scratches and dust on your 
visor, however small and/or sparse, the glare would certainly shut down your 
irises. Utter nonsense. The Moon must be at least as far, if not farther, away 
from the Sun as we are. When was the last time your iris "shut down"?! But 
apart from that, and I think you may have the expertise to evaluate this 
suggestion, you don't have to be looking at a bright object in order for your 
irises to close down -- it is only necessary that light can enter your eyes 
from an object at any angle. I speak from the perspective of someone who both 
wears spectacles and sands wood. Paul, you would simply have to do the same 
thing that you have to do here, either tilt your head back or use your hand as 
a blinker.

    As the shuttle crew have (finally) confirmed, you can see stars in space, 
and those stars are "BRILLIANT."


    Paul D

    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx>
    To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Sunday, 9 September, 2007 12:47:23 AM
    Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Space Shuttle Pics


    Your post seems strangely geared toward sowing confusion and resisting 
progress. Perhaps you are on one of your Devil's Advocate trips, but please do 
not take such positions for the hell of it.

    The windows of the shuttle reflect light , just like in a railway carriage 
at night. Of course you would need to turn off the lights, or else press 
yourself right up against the glass.

    The Moon has no such effect, because there is nothing for the light to 
reflect off. Specifically, there is no atmosphere. Look away from the surface 
and there is no light entering your eye except from ... the stars.

    No one here is "grasping at straws." Why are you so reluctant to accept 
this NASA U-turn on seeing stars?



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