[GeoStL] Re: An actual geocaching topic...what do you think about the frisbee rule?
- From: "GC-RGS" <gc-rgs@xxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:51:19 -0600
That's right. I personally talked with Vic (who was the acting recreation
manager at the time) in '05 about it and he was all excited about having caches
in their parks. He was also glad when the new caches popped up in Mini Ha Ha
along the Meramec river.
And about 2 years ago Gerald (park supt. I think) had been talking with Vic
about geocaching and asked me to give a short talk to his chapter of the
Optimist Club or Chamber of Commerce, I can't remember which.
So maybe they forgot about caches in the parks or there are other people in
charge now.
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From: Laura D
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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:54 AM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: An actual geocaching topic...what do you think about
the frisbee rule?
I don't know which Sunset Hills guy you were talking to, but I have discussed
geocaching with Vic and another guy (forgot his name), and I know that RGS has
discussed geocaching with them too.
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Subject: [GeoStL] Re: An actual geocaching topic...what do you think about
the frisbee rule?
Our scoutmaster is personal friends with the guy that runs the Sunset Hills
parks. I took the troop on some hikes that included geocaching. I mentioned the
geocaching course at Whitecliff, and the scoutmaster immediately thought that
such a project would be a good Eagle project for my son when the time comes,
and he asked the parks manager if he wanted to do that. He liked the idea as
well. The scoutmaster relayed that to me, and when I told him that there were
already several caches in the park, and a course like the one in the Crestwood
park would probably not be possible because of the density of caches already in
the park, he of course relayed that back to the park manager. He said he didn't
know anything at all about there being caches in his parks.
Now, when that happens, I can imagine a lot of different reactions. One of
them COULD be the feeling of being "violated". Someone doing something in MY
park without my permission. Another is fear of insurance and legal issues. If
either of those thoughts come first, the first reaction is going to be anger,
and might result in the immediate removal of caches and a negative attitude
about any further caching from others seeking permissions since geocachers are
now associated with the notion that they are irresponsible and inconsiderate of
the park management.
I agree that geocaching in itself should be a harmful enough activity that
permission should hardly be required, but there are those circumstances where
the cache hider just doesn't know what the park manager knows, and mutual
cooperation is probably a nicer more effective road to travel for all involved.
Courtesy goes a long way. It is so sad that in today's society it seems to be
considered an artifact of a bygone era.
Michael Rogers wrote:
Personally, I think it's one of the best unofficial "rules" out there. If
anyone has ever dealt with government on any level, they know how much of a
pain it can be. Personally, I feel that it's pointless to go asking permission
to use a park as any other person would when they would never have to ask
permission to use it themselves. Granted, many municipalities have policies in
regards to geocaching and they should and must be followed, but for those areas
that don't? Cache away I say...
What say you?
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