Yep, totally agree with you Phil. Reaper, at the moment, is a dead end for any
kind of extra development outside of the current main solution, simply because
there is absolutely no support for anything Jaws related in the Reaper
environment.
This could possibly change, as some Sonar users are moving over to Reaper, due
to the latest Sonar being uncertain...and a few of them may want access to
plugs they had previously used in Sonar. Apart from that, there really isn’t
no appetite for anything that isn’t free on the Reaper platform, probably
because of it’s very low cost/free availability, along with the use of NVDA or
a crack version of Jaws.. Of course, this isn’t to say that is the case across
the board, but in the past 2/3 years of making HSC sets available,, 99% of
request for free sets come from Reaper users. I’ve found that users who have
invested in CT or Jaws for example, will invest in a plug and access, those who
don’t invest in such things, find it difficult to make that jump.
I think it’s a good thing we have Reaper, as it is giving an option to users
who don’t want to invest and just dabble with recording, but we still need the
high end access and tools to keep up with the sighted user. Best Steve.
From: Phil Muir
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 10:52 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 and Sonar producer 8.5 with CakeTalk 8.8
Steve. You raise some valid points. You are absolutely right. Hadn't thought of
the offset issue but no doubt it will be an issue for sure :-( Shall have to
carefuly considder the cost for this as think there will be a financial cost
with regard to doing this :and I won't be picking up the tab for that -)
On 26 October 2015 22:08:27 GMT+00:00, Steve S <stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Phil, in my experience, it’s not as simple as you’ve mentioned. There is a
definite offset...and depending on the plug in question, splitting up the set
and applying different offsets may be necessary.
Best Steve
From: Phil Muir
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 3:30 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 and Sonar producer 8.5 with CakeTalk 8.8
Recoding the sets for Reaper is as simple as changing the Window title name
and application name referenced in the sets. Can do a find and replace all for
that :-) As for interest in Reaper and Jaws HSC sets, sure ask the Reaper
folks. Would be interesting to get some numbers :-) Personally planning to keep
Sonar 8.5.3 installed even if I start to dig into Reaper as Sonar has some
great plug-ins. Hmm, could recode all Sonar HSC sets so that they also work in
Reaper. It would be nice to be able to use the Sonitus EQ and Compressor in
Reaper as I have a ton of personalised presets that I use here for both of
those plug-ins.
On 26 October 2015 15:18:36 GMT+00:00, Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Haha I just asked this very question. Please ignore that post. Glad to hear
it's not that much work to repurpose the sets. Count me in as very very
interested, especially since I'll be buying your sets as soon as I get paid for
the current mixing job.
Want me to ask the Reaper folks how many are using Jaws, to gauge the level
of interest?
At 11:12 AM 10/26/2015, you wrote:
Yes the HSC sets for Superior Drummer 2 are Sonar based. Having said
that, it would be really simple to recode them to work in Reaper. Haven't had
any requests for that yet though.
On 26 October 2015 14:47:47 GMT+00:00, Florian Beijers
<florianbeijers@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I tend to mainly still use Sonar due to the scripts our dear
Steve has
made :) As well as other HSC sets and scripts that depend on Sonar
to
work. No matter how you turn the wheel, it's still true that
currently
if you want to use virtual instruments like the orange tree samples
stuff you're pretty much stuck with Sonar. I'm guessing the stuff
Phil
did for Superior is also Sonar-based. Kontakt is also best supported
in SOnar, although some autoHotkey scripts exist that work with I
believe the standalone version as well. I'd love to use Reaper full
time, but I'd lose too many of my preferred tools. As for what theme
to use in win10, I guess either the standard or high-contrast theme
would be best. My preference would go for standard because thats
what
comes by default, but I have no idea how suitable that theme is for
color detection.
Florian
2015-10-26 15:14 GMT+01:00,
Chris
Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>:
perhaps a crowd-funding campaign? People were able to more than fund
development of NVDA Remote recently, raising some ten grand or so.
At 12:24 AM 10/26/2015, you wrote:

Don't think anyone can summarize that better than what you just did.
Thanks for that.
I should clarify my statement about it being a total Microsoft
issue. What
I mean is that since the OS has to change to accommodate things like
tablets and the like, it seems that there's this constant burden
that
third-party developers have to scramble to make their products work
under
the new OS; which is fine, as long as there's some sort of
mechanism in
place t
hat can
help them do just that. Not everybody has the massive
resources that Microsoft and Apple have to do it; consequently
they're
constantly behind in having to catch up with the latest and
greatest. It
takes a lot of money and resources paying programmers decent wages,
etc.
I don't know what a fair and viable solution is; and though I
understand
the need to keep up with the technology, I agree with you that
right now
we have a system in place that works quite well, and it's pretty
darn
stable.
Mike
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Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 22:28
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 and Sonar producer 8.5 with
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Microsoft is not at fault here; honestly in order to make most of
the UI
improvements they have, they had to ditch the old engine and start
with a
new one, especially
for
using apps. Just like what they had to do with the
start menu, taskbar, notification/tray, menu bars which are mostly
ribbons
now, and many other core windows functions. Anyone whoâs tried
windows
8 and above knows how different things are from windows 7 and
before.
Theyâd assume the screen readers and other technologies would
make
whatever changes to keep up to date with their OS.
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