Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
- From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:09:27 +0200
Both can be resolved with discrete units of measurement. If you take the
Planck unit to be the shortest meaningful length of distance or time, the
paradox disappears.
It's a workaround that uses the inherent constraints of our scientific
framework. ie. anything less than the Planck length may be meaningful in
another system, but it's still meaningless to us. So from a scientific
point of view, there's no paradox.
Zeno intentionally created that paradox to demonstrate the absurdity of
infinitely divisible motion.
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I get that the first one is a paradox. The second one is only a paradox
> if time is continuous.
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> If time in not continuous, then motion is an illusion made up of infinite
> instances of non-motion.
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> I suppose it just comes down to which side of the debate you fall on.
> Since most physics is time-reversal invariant, it shouldn't matter whether
> or not time is continuous or whether it flows forward and motion exists.
> All fine, unless you really love your second law of thermodynamics...
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> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
> *Sent:* 13 February 2014 12:43 PM
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> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
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> The first one produces a paradox when you try to perform calculations on
> limits (same as Lumi's example).
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> Second produces a paradox because even though all the statements are true,
> the reality is different.
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> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> That's not a paradox though, that's the question as to whether time is
> continuous.
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> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
> *Sent:* 13 February 2014 12:33 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
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> Haha actually that wasn't one of Zeno's paradoxes. It's related to the
> paradoxes of limits that Lumi posted though.
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> Zeno's paradox about motion went something like this:
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> If motion can be broken down into instances, and instances are durations
> where no motion takes place and no time passes, how can motion take place
> at all?
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> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> Always "works" because infinity is undefined.
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> I like Zeno's paradoxes.
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> It always takes a finite amount of time greater than zero to move between
> any two points.
> There are an infinite number of points between any two points.
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> Therefore, it takes an infinite amount of time to move between two points
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> Therefore, motion is impossible.
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> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:09 PM, sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> In the spirit of the interesting idea that was posted yesterday, here's
> a nifty paradox:
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> http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/37327/infinity-1-paradox
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> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:05 PM, sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> I think I knocked him out at a previous CTS tourney.
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> Don't think he should be added to the mails yet, if he's actually serious
> about fighters then cool. But we've seen too many examples of randoms being
> added and then never seeing or hearing from them.
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> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Well, you may be in disbelief than LB.
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> He is coming to the session. I should add him to the mails though.
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> We've been playing for a bit now.
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> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:43 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> I dnt believe the sleepyforest wil say such things.
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> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:35:30 +0200
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> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>
> From: sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Hey guys. Just chilling with SleepingForest9.
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> Says that ChunLi sticks are gay and so is Chun. So yeah, its a ft10
> against Lumi.
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> Just letting you guys know.
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> On 11 Feb 2014 18:47, "G B" <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> LOL. STFU man! :-D
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> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:52 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> ROFLMAO
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> the new fragrance by GB
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> > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:41:10 +0200
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> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
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> > From: ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx
> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > DKNY
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