I get that the first one is a paradox. The second one is only a paradox if time is continuous. If time in not continuous, then motion is an illusion made up of infinite instances of non-motion. I suppose it just comes down to which side of the debate you fall on. Since most physics is time-reversal invariant, it shouldn't matter whether or not time is continuous or whether it flows forward and motion exists. All fine, unless you really love your second law of thermodynamics... From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama Sent: 13 February 2014 12:43 PM To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi The first one produces a paradox when you try to perform calculations on limits (same as Lumi's example). Second produces a paradox because even though all the statements are true, the reality is different. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: That's not a paradox though, that's the question as to whether time is continuous. From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama Sent: 13 February 2014 12:33 PM To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi Haha actually that wasn't one of Zeno's paradoxes. It's related to the paradoxes of limits that Lumi posted though. Zeno's paradox about motion went something like this: If motion can be broken down into instances, and instances are durations where no motion takes place and no time passes, how can motion take place at all? On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Always "works" because infinity is undefined. I like Zeno's paradoxes. It always takes a finite amount of time greater than zero to move between any two points. There are an infinite number of points between any two points. Therefore, it takes an infinite amount of time to move between two points Therefore, motion is impossible. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:09 PM, sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: In the spirit of the interesting idea that was posted yesterday, here's a nifty paradox: http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/37327/infinity-1-paradox On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:05 PM, sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: I think I knocked him out at a previous CTS tourney. Don't think he should be added to the mails yet, if he's actually serious about fighters then cool. But we've seen too many examples of randoms being added and then never seeing or hearing from them. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Well, you may be in disbelief than LB. He is coming to the session. I should add him to the mails though. We've been playing for a bit now. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:43 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: I dnt believe the sleepyforest wil say such things. ________________________________ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:35:30 +0200 Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi From: sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Hey guys. Just chilling with SleepingForest9. Says that ChunLi sticks are gay and so is Chun. So yeah, its a ft10 against Lumi. Just letting you guys know. On 11 Feb 2014 18:47, "G B" <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: LOL. STFU man! :-D On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:52 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: ROFLMAO the new fragrance by GB > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:41:10 +0200 > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi > From: ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > DKNY > Don't Know Nothing You > ========================================================================= > You are subscribed to the Cape Town Fighting Game Community mailing list. > > //www.freelists.org/list/cpt-fgc ________________________________ The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this communication in error, please address with the subject heading "Received in error," send to the original sender, then delete the e-mail and destroy any copies of it. 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