Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
- From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 16:30:16 +0200
The problem is that different definitions of shoto are conflated.
From a gameplay perspective, a traditional view of a shoto is a non-charge
character that controls space like Ryu (DP + fireball). So Sagat would be
classified as shoto, but Sakura and Gouken aren't.
From a design perspective, Sagat is not a shoto, but Sakura and Dan are.
(They are "shoto clones")
From a branding perspective, Iori and Kyo is a shoto (he is the Ryu/Ken of
the KOF series)
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:14 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> btw, is 3 count bout and savage reign on the list?
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thats right. Sagat doesn't have a tatsu yet.Come on, Ultra.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Sagat might have fireballs and a DP but he plays nothing like shotos.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Ebrahiem Carr <eetcarr@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sagat = Shoto? dont seem like it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12 February 2014 13:48, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In my head
>>>>>
>>>>> projectile + shoryu = shoto
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:44:48 +0200
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Must be because he has a dragon punch *lmao*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> VF Kage a shoto....... yeeeah no.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/02/2014, Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Hmmm. I never bothered to watch it on normal res, at least now I can
>>>>> see if
>>>>> > for the first time in all its glory.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>> > Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
>>>>> > Sent: 12 February 2014 1:10 PM
>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Did a random google...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Never realised the re-released Planetes on Blu ray. (Ages ago aswell
>>>>> > lol..)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I need that asap!
>>>>> > ________________________________
>>>>> > From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>> > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 08:29:41 +0000
>>>>> > Nah, not watching yet, but also heard good things about it on the
>>>>> forums.
>>>>> > Is it done? I'm not going to start watching something that's not
>>>>> finished
>>>>> > yet.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Speaking of which is that Killakill thing done yet?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
>>>>> > Sent: 12 February 2014 10:28 AM
>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Anyone watching this?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magi:_The_Labyrinth_of_Magic
>>>>> > Friend says it's good. I'll give it a watch.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Wynand-Ben
>>>>> > <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>> > Mushishi was good
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Girls und Panzer was random fun (Tank battles as a highschool sport
>>>>> lol)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I could never get into Fairy Tail..
>>>>> > ________________________________
>>>>> > From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>> > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 08:23:49 +0000
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> http://www.moetron.com/2014/02/08/spring-2014-visual-guide-anime-schedule-pv-collection/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > New JoJo and Mushishi that I'll probably check out eventually.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Also Girls und Panzer OVA and the last of the Freezing Vibrations
>>>>> OVAs for
>>>>> > the fanservice side.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Not sure what the new Fairy Tail thing is about.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>>>>> > On Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
>>>>> > Sent: 12 February 2014 10:20 AM
>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Most of them bitched about the plot in the first 2 aswell.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I found them acceptable...
>>>>> > ________________________________
>>>>> > From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>> > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 07:49:58 +0000
>>>>> > Same here.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > What's killing me is that Paas was saying that he's read reviews and
>>>>> they
>>>>> > say the gameplay is all good, but the story is a bit meh. The story
>>>>> is the
>>>>> > main reason I play FF.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Meh, I'm back at work today. Had a meeting with a client at 9am. Got
>>>>> out of
>>>>> > bed around 8am. Yawn.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
>>>>> > Sent: 11 February 2014 10:08 PM
>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I will probably be grabbing it...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > :P
>>>>> > ________________________________
>>>>> > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:06:45 +0200
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > Just you.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 11 February 2014 21:10, sameegh jardine
>>>>> > <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So who's getting FF13:Lightning returns?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>>>>> > <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thank goodness I'm not an experienced player.
>>>>> > I just read Ilitirit's mind, and then Ultra.
>>>>> > On 11 Feb 2014 19:56, "Ilitirit Sama"
>>>>> > <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Because experienced players know when and when not to backdash.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:58 PM, G B
>>>>> > <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That option select nonsense... ugh. I used them for a week but I
>>>>> never once
>>>>> > got a free hit. Stopped using it since.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:57 PM, G B
>>>>> > <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Yeah. I think some of it is also attributed to me thinking that SF
>>>>> is so
>>>>> > knockdown-setup/unblockable based that... its all I look for. Well,
>>>>> at least
>>>>> > what I look for from my opponent, because I don't know any real
>>>>> setups aside
>>>>> > from jump in with hp (which works, LOL).
>>>>> > From what you've told me about playing Sakura, the only things I
>>>>> kept was
>>>>> > 'use st.hk<http://st.hk> as a poke', 'ex tatsu -> ultra 1', 'uryo
>>>>> knockdown
>>>>> > setup' and 'cr.hp if they jump'. I'd say 'don't jump' but LOL, I
>>>>> still do
>>>>> > that without even thinking about it, :-).
>>>>> > ...and basically, that is all I need to win matches. or its least,
>>>>> to put up
>>>>> > a fight. The rest of the stuff I react to as we play. That's why I'm
>>>>> > 'twitchy', especially when the game is slow. That's when the random
>>>>> tatsus
>>>>> > come out or I start jumping, etc, the game can start picking up
>>>>> again, to
>>>>> > the pace I like/used to play at.
>>>>> > I will say that dealing with these many hard knockdown's and
>>>>> ambiguity of
>>>>> > jump-in moves is probably the biggest challenge I've had to face in
>>>>> SF. In
>>>>> > KOF, getting a hard knockdown rather is rather rare and obviously,
>>>>> with CD
>>>>> > blow backs and escape rolls, getting a breather is a bit simpler.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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