Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

  • From: Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 16:23:48 +0200

A shoto has a fireball, dragon punch and tatsu. Shotos also typically share
the following:

Crouch fierce punch (anti-air).
Crouch medium kick (solid footsie tool with an easy 2-in-1 into fireball)

They're usually quite versatile.

Sagat doesn't count IMO and not just because he doesn't have a tatsu. The
way the character is played is completely different to the way a
conventional 'shoto' is played.

Shotos have zoning tools but don't have to be played as zoners to be
effective. Sagat is a true zoner. His entire game revolves around keeping
you as far away from him as possible. I suppose you could say he's more
one-dimensional when compared to shotos. Look at Ken and Akuma. Ken has
zoning tools but he's well suited to rushdown. Akuma can be played
offensively or defensively to great effect. Ryu is a great all-rounder.



On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hehe
>
> I barely play the game :P
> Thats just how it seems to me.
>
> Serious question then
> What is a shoto?
> Why would Sagat not be a shoto?
>
> Just wondering
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:50:05 +0200
>
> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> From: eetcarr@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> Sagat = Shoto? dont seem like it
>
>
> On 12 February 2014 13:48, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> In my head
>
> projectile + shoryu = shoto
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:44:48 +0200
>
> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> Must be because he has a dragon punch *lmao*
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Stephen Scheidel 
> <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> VF Kage a shoto.......  yeeeah no.
>
> On 12/02/2014, Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hmmm. I never bothered to watch it on normal res, at least now I can see
> if
> > for the first time in all its glory.
> >
> > From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
> > Sent: 12 February 2014 1:10 PM
> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> >
> > Did a random google...
> >
> > Never realised the re-released Planetes on Blu ray.  (Ages ago aswell
> > lol..)
> >
> > I need that asap!
> > ________________________________
> > From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 08:29:41 +0000
> > Nah, not watching yet, but also heard good things about it on the forums.
> > Is it done? I'm not going to start watching something that's not finished
> > yet.
> >
> > Speaking of which is that Killakill thing done yet?
> >
> >
> > From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
> > Sent: 12 February 2014 10:28 AM
> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> >
> > Anyone watching this?
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magi:_The_Labyrinth_of_Magic
> > Friend says it's good.  I'll give it a watch.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Wynand-Ben
> > <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > Mushishi was good
> >
> > Girls und Panzer was random fun (Tank battles as a highschool sport lol)
> >
> > I could never get into Fairy Tail..
> > ________________________________
> > From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 08:23:49 +0000
> >
> >
> http://www.moetron.com/2014/02/08/spring-2014-visual-guide-anime-schedule-pv-collection/
> >
> > New JoJo and Mushishi that I'll probably check out eventually.
> >
> > Also Girls und Panzer OVA and the last of the Freezing Vibrations OVAs
> for
> > the fanservice side.
> >
> > Not sure what the new Fairy Tail thing is about.
> >
> >
> > From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >]
> > On Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
> > Sent: 12 February 2014 10:20 AM
> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> >
> > Most of them bitched about the plot in the first 2 aswell.
> >
> > I found them acceptable...
> > ________________________________
> > From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 07:49:58 +0000
> > Same here.
> >
> > What's killing me is that Paas was saying that he's read reviews and they
> > say the gameplay is all good, but the story is a bit meh. The story is
> the
> > main reason I play FF.
> >
> > Meh, I'm back at work today. Had a meeting with a client at 9am. Got out
> of
> > bed around 8am. Yawn.
> >
> > From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
> > Sent: 11 February 2014 10:08 PM
> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> >
> > I will probably be grabbing it...
> >
> > :P
> > ________________________________
> > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:06:45 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Just you.
> >
> > On 11 February 2014 21:10, sameegh jardine
> > <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> > So who's getting FF13:Lightning returns?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
> > <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> > Thank goodness I'm not an experienced player.
> > I just read Ilitirit's mind, and then Ultra.
> > On 11 Feb 2014 19:56, "Ilitirit Sama"
> > <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> > Because experienced players know when and when not to backdash.
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:58 PM, G B
> > <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> > That option select nonsense... ugh. I used them for a week but I never
> once
> > got a free hit. Stopped using it since.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:57 PM, G B
> > <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah. I think some of it is also attributed to me thinking that SF is so
> > knockdown-setup/unblockable based that... its all I look for. Well, at
> least
> > what I look for from my opponent, because I don't know any real setups
> aside
> > from jump in with hp (which works, LOL).
> > From what you've told me about playing Sakura, the only things I kept was
> > 'use st.hk<http://st.hk> as a poke', 'ex tatsu -> ultra 1',  'uryo
> knockdown
> > setup' and 'cr.hp if they jump'. I'd say 'don't jump' but LOL, I still do
> > that without even thinking about it, :-).
> > ...and basically, that is all I need to win matches. or its least, to
> put up
> > a fight. The rest of the stuff I react to as we play. That's why I'm
> > 'twitchy', especially when the game is slow. That's when the random
> tatsus
> > come out or I start jumping, etc, the game can start picking up again, to
> > the pace I like/used to play at.
> > I will say that dealing with these many hard knockdown's and ambiguity of
> > jump-in moves is probably the biggest challenge I've had to face in SF.
> In
> > KOF, getting a hard knockdown rather is rather rare and obviously, with
> CD
> > blow backs and escape rolls, getting a breather is a bit simpler.
> >
> >
> >
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