This really is the bottom line and I fully agree. Discussions about speech synthesis almost always turn into religious wars--they're like stereo speakers and the reason that there are so many choices is identical to the reason there are so many stereo speaker brands and designs--use is totally subjective and there's no single solution that'll please everyone, let alone a majority. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 9:09 PM Subject: [bookport] Re: speech There's no way to please everybody on the speech issue. And there's also, it would seem, no choice that would please a majority. I have no speech preference. I've gotten used to the DoubleTalk, I've gotten used to the DECTalk, I could get used to AT&T, I've gotten used to the Echo, Artic, the old Braille 'n Speak, as long as it talks and I have a while to get used to it, fine. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Yep, speech is very subjective, in my opinion, dectalk would be the worst > choice. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris G" <chrisg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 12:19 PM > Subject: [bookport] Re: speech > > >> How about decTalk? >> i know speech is very subjective. >> >> >> >> -- >> Chris G <chrisg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:51:46 -0600 >> "Richard Ring" <ring.richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Considering the time period which is historically known as the dark >>> ages, I sincerely doubt if the Doubletalk chip was available then. >>> I don't mind if improvements are made in speech, but please, don't use >>> Keynote, and don't use AT&T natural voices. >>> I am currently testing a piece of software that APH sells that features >>> the AT&T Natural voices, and that speech is extremely difficult for me >>> to become accustomed to. >>> Although the overall sound of many individual words is more human than, >>> say, Eloquence or the Doubletalk, the inflection/rhythm is quite >>> strange. The speech sounds as if digitized words are being patched >>> together so as to create the illusion of human sounding speech. >>> It doesn't work. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick and Pauline >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:34 PM >>> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [bookport] Re: speech >>> >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Considering the improvements that have been made in synthesized speech >>> in >>> the last few years, it would be a shame for the American Printinghouse >>> to >>> saddle us with an antiquated system like Doubletalk. It simply doesn't >>> meet >>> acceptable standards as a speech system any longer. People I have >>> talked >>> with have held back from buying a Bookport because they have little >>> tolerance for Doubletalk. To package an up to date product like the new >>> >>> Bookport with yesterday's technology makes no sense at all to me. For >>> those >>> who want to remain in the dark ages, you can keep what you have become >>> accustomed to, but please don't try to hold back the rest of us who hope >>> for >>> something better. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:20 PM >>> Subject: [bookport] Re: speech >>> >>> >>>> The problem with eloquence is that it's software speech which means >>> you >>>> need >>>> a few more things then you would by sticking with the doubletalk >>> synth. >>>> First a more powerful processor, and second, an operating system for >>> the >>>> speech to work with. Most likely that would result in a higher cost >>> unit, >>>> in >>>> which case I'd say, by all means stick with doubletalk. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "David Bennett" <david382@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:31 PM >>>> Subject: [bookport] Re: speech >>>> >>>> >>>>> Just remember that the better the speech, the higher will be the >>> cost. >>>> I'd >>>>> love to have eloquence, but it's one of the more costly ways to go. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Sue" <sjfryer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:19 PM >>>>> Subject: [bookport] Re: speech >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm with you, mate. I think Eloquence would be a great idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sue. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:35 AM >>>>>> Subject: [bookport] speech >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Since we're talking about the new unit, speech might be worth >>>> discussing. >>>>>>> My >>>>>>> vote would be for doubletalk or eloquence. Of course, everyone has >>>> their >>>>>>> favorites, and there's no way you're going to please everyone, but >>>> that's >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> vote. Perhaps the new units could have 2 speech engines like the >>>>>>> braillenotes do >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> 2.21.03 >> >> > >