[bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses
- From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:39:51 -0500
I received the file. Thank you, Peter.
Pratik
Pratik Patel
Interim Director
Office of Special Services
Queens College
Director
CUNY Assistive Technology Services
The City University of New York
ppatel@xxxxxx
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Scialli
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 12:32 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses
Pratik,
OK, it's there. The file name is just the date it was scanned 1/13/05.
Thanks.
________________________
Peter M. Scialli, Ph.D.
Associate, Technical Projects, Bookshare.org
www.bookshare.org
A Project of The Benetech Initiative - Technology Serving Humanity
peter @benetech.org
www.benetech.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 11:05 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses
> Peter,
>
> If you can, You can leave the PDF in the "incoming" directory at
> ftp://ftp.consultabilitygroup.com. If you have trouble, please let me
> know.
>
>
> Pratik
>
>
>
> Pratik Patel
> Interim Director
> Office of Special Services
> Queens College
> Director
> CUNY Assistive Technology Services
> The City University of New York
> ppatel@xxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Scialli
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:59 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses
>
> Pratik,
> The PDF is 14 megs. I don't think I can send that by Email. Do
> youhave
>
> another suggestion?
>
>
> ________________________
> Peter M. Scialli, Ph.D.
> Associate, Technical Projects, Bookshare.org
> www.bookshare.org
>
> A Project of The Benetech Initiative - Technology Serving Humanity
> peter @benetech.org
> www.benetech.org
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:43 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses
>
>
>> You can send it to me as well. I'l put it through its usual paces and
>> promise to clcean it up before submitting.
>>
>> Pratik
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Pratik Patel
>> Interim Director
>> Office of Special Services
>> Queens College
>> Director
>> CUNY Assistive Technology Services
>> The City University of New York
>> ppatel@xxxxxx
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel
>> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:31 AM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses
>>
>> Peter,
>>
>> If you'd like to post the PDF, I'l put it through both Finereader and
>> Omnipage. Both do an excellent job with PDF's than either K1K or OB.
>>
>> Pratik
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Pratik Patel
>> Interim Director
>> Office of Special Services
>> Queens College
>> Director
>> CUNY Assistive Technology Services
>> The City University of New York
>> ppatel@xxxxxx
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Scialli
>> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:12 AM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses
>>
>> I actually have the original scan as a PDF. If someone is interested, I
>> can send it to them or convert it to KES, ARK or whatever where it can be
>> reprocessed by hand. I'd be happy to get it posted to the site in a less
>> rushed, more navigationally correct version.
>>
>>
>> ________________________
>> Peter M. Scialli, Ph.D.
>> Associate, Technical Projects, Bookshare.org
>> www.bookshare.org
>>
>> A Project of The Benetech Initiative - Technology Serving Humanity
>> peter @benetech.org
>> www.benetech.org
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 9:54 AM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses
>>
>>
>>> Guido
>>>
>>> I think we here have as much a philosophical question as a technical
>>> one.
>>> As no matter what system is implemented or put in place, both on
>>> BookShare
>>> and within our ocr software, someone will find it not to their liking.
>>> On the one hand, having page numbers, sections, chapters, etc kept in
>>> the
>>> text is invaluable.
>>> But then when too much of that info is announced, others object.
>>> My personal preference is to have more rather than less kept; and hence,
>>> a
>>> lenient stripper;
>>> but I alredy understand the objections especially among those who do
>>> automated continuous reading, convert to mp3 and all the rest.
>>>
>>> "The Broker" should be a case study in showing just how difficult all
>>> this
>>> can be especially when dealing with automated tools and rush scanning
>>> without hand validating.
>>> Unintentionally, and this could in no way have been prevented other than
>>> through painstaking effort which would have delayed availability of the
>>> book, valuable info was lost.
>>> In the short-run, having the book immediately available is more
>>> important
>>> than having technical glitches dealt with.
>>> Perhaps the best solution, in a case such as this, is to have the book
>>> immediately made available with the originally scanned copy placed on
>>> the
>>> step 1 validation page for someone, if they chose, to do the manual
>>> finetuning.
>>> Then, once validated, the improved copy would replace the original one.
>>> That would be the best of both worlds -- quick access but also
>>> addressing
>>> the real concerns expressed by Ken that the book isn''t optimally
>>> labeled
>>> internally.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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