[bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses

  • From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:42:55 -0600

Smile.  Your suggestion made me laugh, Shelley.  It appears though he is
going to send it to Prat, the guy Gustavo is sending down the garden path to
perdition with you and Judson!  <lol>
Sue S.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:13 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses


Submit the .rtf file to the site, and let the "wolves" fight over who gets
it, smile.

That way it is all nice and good, smile.


Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
Graduate Advisory Council
www.guidedogs.com

The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to
stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs.

      -- Vance Havner
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Scialli" <Peter.s@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:59 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses


Pratik,
    The PDF is 14 megs.  I don't think I can send that by Email.  Do youhave
another suggestion?


________________________
Peter M. Scialli, Ph.D.
Associate, Technical Projects, Bookshare.org
www.bookshare.org

A Project of The Benetech Initiative - Technology Serving Humanity
peter @benetech.org
www.benetech.org


----- Original Message -----
From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses


> You can send it to me as well.  I'l put it through its usual paces and
> promise to clcean it up before submitting.
>
> Pratik
>
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>
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> Pratik Patel
> Interim Director
> Office of Special Services
> Queens College
> Director
> CUNY Assistive Technology Services
> The City University of New York
>     ppatel@xxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:31 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses
>
> Peter,
>
> If you'd like to post the PDF, I'l  put it through both Finereader and
> Omnipage.  Both do an excellent job with PDF's than either K1K or OB.
>
> Pratik
>
>
>
>
> Pratik Patel
> Interim Director
> Office of Special Services
> Queens College
> Director
> CUNY Assistive Technology Services
> The City University of New York
>     ppatel@xxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Scialli
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:12 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses
>
>  I actually have the original scan as a PDF.  If someone is interested, I
> can send it to them or convert it to KES, ARK or whatever where it can be
> reprocessed by hand.  I'd be happy to get it posted to the site in a less
> rushed, more navigationally correct version.
>
>
> ________________________
> Peter M. Scialli, Ph.D.
> Associate, Technical Projects, Bookshare.org
> www.bookshare.org
>
> A Project of The Benetech Initiative - Technology Serving Humanity
> peter @benetech.org
> www.benetech.org
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 9:54 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses
>
>
>> Guido
>>
>> I think we here have as much a philosophical question as a technical one.
>> As no matter what system is implemented or put in place, both on
>> BookShare
>> and within our ocr software, someone will find it not to their liking.
>> On the one hand, having page numbers, sections, chapters, etc kept in the
>> text is invaluable.
>> But then when too much of that info is announced, others object.
>> My personal preference is to have more rather than less kept; and hence,
>> a
>> lenient stripper;
>> but I alredy understand the objections especially among those who do
>> automated continuous reading, convert to mp3 and all the rest.
>>
>> "The Broker" should be a case study in showing just how difficult all
>> this
>> can be especially when dealing with automated tools and rush scanning
>> without hand validating.
>> Unintentionally, and this could in no way have been prevented other than
>> through painstaking effort which would have delayed availability of the
>> book, valuable info was lost.
>> In the short-run, having the book immediately available is more important
>> than having technical glitches dealt with.
>> Perhaps the best solution, in a case such as this, is to have the book
>> immediately made available with the originally scanned copy placed on the
>> step 1 validation page for someone, if they chose, to do the manual
>> finetuning.
>> Then, once validated, the improved copy would replace the original one.
>> That would be the best of both worlds -- quick access but also addressing
>> the real concerns expressed by Ken that the book isn''t optimally labeled
>> internally.
>>
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>>
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