Peter, If you can, You can leave the PDF in the "incoming" directory at ftp://ftp.consultabilitygroup.com. If you have trouble, please let me know. Pratik Pratik Patel Interim Director Office of Special Services Queens College Director CUNY Assistive Technology Services The City University of New York ppatel@xxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Scialli Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:59 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses Pratik, The PDF is 14 megs. I don't think I can send that by Email. Do youhave another suggestion? ________________________ Peter M. Scialli, Ph.D. Associate, Technical Projects, Bookshare.org www.bookshare.org A Project of The Benetech Initiative - Technology Serving Humanity peter @benetech.org www.benetech.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:43 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses > You can send it to me as well. I'l put it through its usual paces and > promise to clcean it up before submitting. > > Pratik > > > > > Pratik Patel > Interim Director > Office of Special Services > Queens College > Director > CUNY Assistive Technology Services > The City University of New York > ppatel@xxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:31 AM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses > > Peter, > > If you'd like to post the PDF, I'l put it through both Finereader and > Omnipage. Both do an excellent job with PDF's than either K1K or OB. > > Pratik > > > > > Pratik Patel > Interim Director > Office of Special Services > Queens College > Director > CUNY Assistive Technology Services > The City University of New York > ppatel@xxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Scialli > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:12 AM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses > > I actually have the original scan as a PDF. If someone is interested, I > can send it to them or convert it to KES, ARK or whatever where it can be > reprocessed by hand. I'd be happy to get it posted to the site in a less > rushed, more navigationally correct version. > > > ________________________ > Peter M. Scialli, Ph.D. > Associate, Technical Projects, Bookshare.org > www.bookshare.org > > A Project of The Benetech Initiative - Technology Serving Humanity > peter @benetech.org > www.benetech.org > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 9:54 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: The Broker--strengths and weaknesses > > >> Guido >> >> I think we here have as much a philosophical question as a technical one. >> As no matter what system is implemented or put in place, both on >> BookShare >> and within our ocr software, someone will find it not to their liking. >> On the one hand, having page numbers, sections, chapters, etc kept in the >> text is invaluable. >> But then when too much of that info is announced, others object. >> My personal preference is to have more rather than less kept; and hence, >> a >> lenient stripper; >> but I alredy understand the objections especially among those who do >> automated continuous reading, convert to mp3 and all the rest. >> >> "The Broker" should be a case study in showing just how difficult all >> this >> can be especially when dealing with automated tools and rush scanning >> without hand validating. >> Unintentionally, and this could in no way have been prevented other than >> through painstaking effort which would have delayed availability of the >> book, valuable info was lost. >> In the short-run, having the book immediately available is more important >> than having technical glitches dealt with. >> Perhaps the best solution, in a case such as this, is to have the book >> immediately made available with the originally scanned copy placed on the >> step 1 validation page for someone, if they chose, to do the manual >> finetuning. >> Then, once validated, the improved copy would replace the original one. >> That would be the best of both worlds -- quick access but also addressing >> the real concerns expressed by Ken that the book isn''t optimally labeled >> internally. >> >> >> > > > > > >