[amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
- From: "Body Cover" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:07:04 -0700
When we first started our cap drivers weren't adjusted as well as they could be.
we didn't understand the thread feed system as well as we do now, and we got
frustrated with thread breaks and poor sew quality in the center of the hat.
Like I just told someone off list, once we put our mind to it
and decided to not be afraid to do hats and concentrated
on solving the problems instead of complaining about them
things got much easier, now we run hats daily and have few problems.
Pointers that we learned
you can't take too much time to make sure the hat is
hooped well and as close to the needle plate as possible.
Slow the machine down, we rarely run over 850 SPM
manually adjust items in the center to create a wider sew pattern
(add pull compensation) or just digitize items in the middle section
wider.
loosen up the bobbin thread to the steady slow drop level.
and those are the things that made the biggest difference for us.
Hope it helps some others out there.
Ron Vinyard
Body Cover / Magic Stitches
1-888-435-0176
541-471-1504
fax 471-0427
420 SW H street
Grants Pass, OR 97526
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.bodycoverdesign.com
----- Original Message -----
From: image embriodery
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:48 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
I read so many comments about caps and the fear involved with them.
I can honestly say after reading several posts, I also was quite apprehensive
about doing caps. But I had a big run for a golf course and I ran the caps with
no problems at all.
6 dozen without a problem.
What exactly is the fear with doing caps?
LuAnn
----- Original Message -----
From: Body Cover
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:58 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
Scary comment!
will we never love our old Amayas for caps? : (
I understand the new ones are awesome!
I am hoping that we will be able to adapt
some of the new technology to our old Amayas though.
Looking forward to seeing you guys back on the list.
Hope vacation was great, I'm sooo Jealous!! : )
Ron Vinyard
Body Cover / Magic Stitches
1-888-435-0176
541-471-1504
fax 471-0427
420 SW H street
Grants Pass, OR 97526
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.bodycoverdesign.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Rod or Sharon
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:05 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
Sorry everyone if this is a duplicate of previous comments. We have not
seen the group chatter for nearly a month. Rod and I just returned home from a
wonderful 2 1/2 week vacation in Vermont and week at more tech training in
Denver. We learned that the older style black rollers are no longer available
for order so we will all be converting one day to the new yellow rollers. It
is, however, really important to keep them free from oil (and don't clean them
with rubbing alcohol--just soapy water) as was mentioned below. The new Amayas
are incredible and you will love them for caps. The updates to Design Shop are
also really neat!!!
Sharon
----- Original Message -----
From: Cheryl Rotter
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:29 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
Debbie,
If you lift up the little arm that has the red roller attached to it
and peek under the arm of the red thread roller, the rubber should show through
as a bright yellow (new ones) not black rubber.(old ones)
cr
Cheryl Rotter
Team Sports Ink
5111 Grumann Dr. Ste #1B
Carson City, NV 89706
775-884-3550
-----Original Message-----
From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of r.rinehartsr
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:58 PM
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
Hey Ed, Can you tell me if I just bought my Amaya the middle of this
past August, does it have the new rollers or the old. All I can see is the
red roller. Thanks, Debbie in Indiana
----- Original Message -----
From: e3m@xxxxxxx
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:18 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
Hey guys. Ed Orantes here.
As for the new rollers, I was excited to learn of the improvements
made to the entire thread feed roller system, not only the roller itself. If
you didn't have any issues with your rollers before, replacing them
periodically or not, then you shouldn't have any issues with the improved
rollers as well. And if you did have issues with the previous rollers, then
you'll really like the changes.
Sure there's an initial cost with the yellow rollers, however in
time, you should see a cost savings with respect to replacing them.
Know that the current thread feed roller outer surface is yellow in
color, no longer black, and improvements have been made in the rubber material,
hub or axle of the roller, larger opening in the window of the new roller cover
and ridges exist along the edge of the red pressure roller on top to add
grippage(?) to the thread. So you see, it's not simply just a new roller but
more an improved roller system. So when it's time to order more rollers, be
sure to ask for the kit and not the only the rollers themselves.
I've been using mine for several months now, not including time
lost from Storm Runnin', and am pleased with what I see.
Only precautions are to keep them free from oil and grease on the
rubber surface. ...Which we should be observing no matter what rollers we're
using. Also note that with the improved thread grippage(?), good results have
been found running with a Material Thickness setting approximately one digit
higher than with the older black rollers.
The thread feed rollers serve two purposes.. one) to deliver the
thread needed prior to the stitch, and two) holding on to the thread (without
slippage) as the take up lever rises to the top of it's stroke to tighten the
knot formed between the thread and bobbin on the underside of the garment.
I only saw this "upgrade" as a positive and looked forward to
having my Amayas equipped just as the latest machines.
Just my thoughts..
Ed Orantes
Amaya Tech and Tree Cutting & Trash Hauling Services
New Orleans, La.
504-258-6260
-------------- Original message from "Lee or Terri Hoover"
<lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: --------------
Ron,
Thanks for the info and focusing on the positive.
Terri
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From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Body Cover
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 11:36 AM
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
I'm sure Jeff Banks can correct me if I'm wrong.
The lady I talked to tells me the package contains
16 of each - New rollers- New roller covers (black thing with the
groove)
New Red rollers (don't know if they have arms too or just rollers)
I also understand except for the few complaints we have read here,
that they work quite well and have an expected life of a least a
year!
were the old ones are substantially less than that.
I am looking forward to removing one more variable when it comes
to looking for thread feed problems. I am trying to look for the
positive.
I too am not happy being forced into an upgrade when I didn't have
problems with the old ones but, from the big corporate viewpoint
if you have a better solution and it saves money and tech time
trying to solve problems then I guess we should be happy they
took the time to research and develop new rollers at all instead
of
looking at the old rollers as a profit center.
I'll keep you all updated.
Ron Vinyard
Body Cover / Magic Stitches
1-888-435-0176
541-471-1504
fax 471-0427
420 SW H street
Grants Pass, OR 97526
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.bodycoverdesign.com
----- Original Message -----
From: David Lindsey <Vector Shirts>
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 8:46 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
I hope the new rollers really last as long as they say they
will because each one cost $5.80 for replacement.
David
Vector Shirts
----- Original Message -----
From: image embriodery
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 11:16 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
Thank You Wendy!
This just irritates me!! There is nothing wrong with the old
rollers and if I am not mistaken people have been complaining about the new
ones, aren't they?
What if not all of my rollers need to be replaced? What is
the upgrade?
Thanks,
LuAnn
----- Original Message -----
From: Itchin To Stitch
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:29 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
That really irritates me. They aren't going to offer the
old roller so basically we are FORCED to pay $95 to upgrade??? I don't like
that at all!!!!! I have never had that much trouble with the old system and do
not like being forced into spending my hard earned money on something that is
unecessary.
Wendy Solomonson
Itchin' To Stitch
Arlington, MN
(507)964-2224
----- Original Message -----
From: Body Cover
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Thread feed roller update!!
Hey all,
Just thought I'd drop in again and let every one know
that didn't know (like me)
but, I just had ordered this morning from Melco, some of
the old thread feed rollers.
and they called back later to tell me that Melco is no
longer selling the old thread feed rollers.
if you need some you either need to know someone who will
sell you some
of their extras or make your own, OR, upgrade for $95 to
the new system.
So hopefully all will go well when our first set shows up
in a few days.
I didn't realize that they were not going to support both
systems.
since I don't have much trouble with the old system.
So just an FYI for anyone that might have needed more.
you'll need to switch to the new system.
Ron Vinyard
Body Cover / Magic Stitches
1-888-435-0176
541-471-1504
fax 471-0427
420 SW H street
Grants Pass, OR 97526
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.bodycoverdesign.com
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