[amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
- From: "Beverly Thompson" <beverlyt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:42:20 -0500
Can you update the machines you have now with the new arm or only update your
software?
regards,
Beverly thompson
perdido beach embroidery
----- Original Message -----
From: Rod or Sharon
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 4:59 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
The new OS takes away all the guess work on material thickness--it
automatically adjusts. That, in conjunction with the new cylinder arm on the
new machines, makes caps so nice to sew. The new cap frame has only one metal
strap to go across the cap so you can sew within nearly (approx.) 1/4 inch from
the bill of the cap which gives us a tiny bit more space for embroidery. You
don't have to trade out needle plates--you sew with the flat one. The round
arm allows the caps to sit right down on the needle plate almost eliminating
any flagging so you stitch better and faster. They have sewn at 1500 but in
class we sewed at 1200 without any problems and embroidery looked great. There
is a little difference in the way you hoop the cap. Melco is really fine tuning
our machines and software!
Sharon
By the way, Ron, poor ole Rod is still on the road. He had to fly to
Fort Worth to teach a class as soon as we got home from Denver.
----- Original Message -----
From: Body Cover
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:07 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
When we first started our cap drivers weren't adjusted as well as they
could be.
we didn't understand the thread feed system as well as we do now, and we
got
frustrated with thread breaks and poor sew quality in the center of the
hat.
Like I just told someone off list, once we put our mind to it
and decided to not be afraid to do hats and concentrated
on solving the problems instead of complaining about them
things got much easier, now we run hats daily and have few problems.
Pointers that we learned
you can't take too much time to make sure the hat is
hooped well and as close to the needle plate as possible.
Slow the machine down, we rarely run over 850 SPM
manually adjust items in the center to create a wider sew pattern
(add pull compensation) or just digitize items in the middle section
wider.
loosen up the bobbin thread to the steady slow drop level.
and those are the things that made the biggest difference for us.
Hope it helps some others out there.
Ron Vinyard
Body Cover / Magic Stitches
1-888-435-0176
541-471-1504
fax 471-0427
420 SW H street
Grants Pass, OR 97526
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.bodycoverdesign.com
----- Original Message -----
From: image embriodery
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:48 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
I read so many comments about caps and the fear involved with them.
I can honestly say after reading several posts, I also was quite
apprehensive about doing caps. But I had a big run for a golf course and I ran
the caps with no problems at all.
6 dozen without a problem.
What exactly is the fear with doing caps?
LuAnn
----- Original Message -----
From: Body Cover
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:58 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
Scary comment!
will we never love our old Amayas for caps? : (
I understand the new ones are awesome!
I am hoping that we will be able to adapt
some of the new technology to our old Amayas though.
Looking forward to seeing you guys back on the list.
Hope vacation was great, I'm sooo Jealous!! : )
Ron Vinyard
Body Cover / Magic Stitches
1-888-435-0176
541-471-1504
fax 471-0427
420 SW H street
Grants Pass, OR 97526
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.bodycoverdesign.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Rod or Sharon
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:05 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
Sorry everyone if this is a duplicate of previous comments. We
have not seen the group chatter for nearly a month. Rod and I just returned
home from a wonderful 2 1/2 week vacation in Vermont and week at more tech
training in Denver. We learned that the older style black rollers are no
longer available for order so we will all be converting one day to the new
yellow rollers. It is, however, really important to keep them free from oil
(and don't clean them with rubbing alcohol--just soapy water) as was mentioned
below. The new Amayas are incredible and you will love them for caps. The
updates to Design Shop are also really neat!!!
Sharon
----- Original Message -----
From: Cheryl Rotter
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:29 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
Debbie,
If you lift up the little arm that has the red roller attached
to it and peek under the arm of the red thread roller, the rubber should show
through as a bright yellow (new ones) not black rubber.(old ones)
cr
Cheryl Rotter
Team Sports Ink
5111 Grumann Dr. Ste #1B
Carson City, NV 89706
775-884-3550
-----Original Message-----
From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of r.rinehartsr
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:58 PM
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
Hey Ed, Can you tell me if I just bought my Amaya the middle
of this past August, does it have the new rollers or the old. All I can see
is the red roller. Thanks, Debbie in Indiana
----- Original Message -----
From: e3m@xxxxxxx
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:18 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
Hey guys. Ed Orantes here.
As for the new rollers, I was excited to learn of the
improvements made to the entire thread feed roller system, not only the roller
itself. If you didn't have any issues with your rollers before, replacing them
periodically or not, then you shouldn't have any issues with the improved
rollers as well. And if you did have issues with the previous rollers, then
you'll really like the changes.
Sure there's an initial cost with the yellow rollers, however
in time, you should see a cost savings with respect to replacing them.
Know that the current thread feed roller outer surface is
yellow in color, no longer black, and improvements have been made in the rubber
material, hub or axle of the roller, larger opening in the window of the new
roller cover and ridges exist along the edge of the red pressure roller on top
to add grippage(?) to the thread. So you see, it's not simply just a new
roller but more an improved roller system. So when it's time to order more
rollers, be sure to ask for the kit and not the only the rollers themselves.
I've been using mine for several months now, not including
time lost from Storm Runnin', and am pleased with what I see.
Only precautions are to keep them free from oil and grease on
the rubber surface. ...Which we should be observing no matter what rollers
we're using. Also note that with the improved thread grippage(?), good
results have been found running with a Material Thickness setting approximately
one digit higher than with the older black rollers.
The thread feed rollers serve two purposes.. one) to deliver
the thread needed prior to the stitch, and two) holding on to the thread
(without slippage) as the take up lever rises to the top of it's stroke to
tighten the knot formed between the thread and bobbin on the underside of the
garment.
I only saw this "upgrade" as a positive and looked forward to
having my Amayas equipped just as the latest machines.
Just my thoughts..
Ed Orantes
Amaya Tech and Tree Cutting & Trash Hauling Services
New Orleans, La.
504-258-6260
-------------- Original message from "Lee or Terri Hoover"
<lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: --------------
Ron,
Thanks for the info and focusing on the positive.
Terri
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From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Body Cover
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 11:36 AM
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
I'm sure Jeff Banks can correct me if I'm wrong.
The lady I talked to tells me the package contains
16 of each - New rollers- New roller covers (black thing
with the groove)
New Red rollers (don't know if they have arms too or just
rollers)
I also understand except for the few complaints we have
read here,
that they work quite well and have an expected life of a
least a year!
were the old ones are substantially less than that.
I am looking forward to removing one more variable when it
comes
to looking for thread feed problems. I am trying to look
for the positive.
I too am not happy being forced into an upgrade when I
didn't have
problems with the old ones but, from the big corporate
viewpoint
if you have a better solution and it saves money and tech
time
trying to solve problems then I guess we should be happy
they
took the time to research and develop new rollers at all
instead of
looking at the old rollers as a profit center.
I'll keep you all updated.
Ron Vinyard
Body Cover / Magic Stitches
1-888-435-0176
541-471-1504
fax 471-0427
420 SW H street
Grants Pass, OR 97526
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.bodycoverdesign.com
----- Original Message -----
From: David Lindsey <Vector Shirts>
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 8:46 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
I hope the new rollers really last as long as they say
they will because each one cost $5.80 for replacement.
David
Vector Shirts
----- Original Message -----
From: image embriodery
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 11:16 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
Thank You Wendy!
This just irritates me!! There is nothing wrong with
the old rollers and if I am not mistaken people have been complaining about the
new ones, aren't they?
What if not all of my rollers need to be replaced? What
is the upgrade?
Thanks,
LuAnn
----- Original Message -----
From: Itchin To Stitch
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:29 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread feed roller update!!
That really irritates me. They aren't going to offer
the old roller so basically we are FORCED to pay $95 to upgrade??? I don't like
that at all!!!!! I have never had that much trouble with the old system and do
not like being forced into spending my hard earned money on something that is
unecessary.
Wendy Solomonson
Itchin' To Stitch
Arlington, MN
(507)964-2224
----- Original Message -----
From: Body Cover
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Thread feed roller update!!
Hey all,
Just thought I'd drop in again and let every one
know that didn't know (like me)
but, I just had ordered this morning from Melco,
some of the old thread feed rollers.
and they called back later to tell me that Melco is
no longer selling the old thread feed rollers.
if you need some you either need to know someone
who will sell you some
of their extras or make your own, OR, upgrade for
$95 to the new system.
So hopefully all will go well when our first set
shows up in a few days.
I didn't realize that they were not going to
support both systems.
since I don't have much trouble with the old system.
So just an FYI for anyone that might have needed
more.
you'll need to switch to the new system.
Ron Vinyard
Body Cover / Magic Stitches
1-888-435-0176
541-471-1504
fax 471-0427
420 SW H street
Grants Pass, OR 97526
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.bodycoverdesign.com
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