[amayausers] Re: Thread Breaks
- From: "Shuffletown Embroidery" <shuffemb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:51:24 -0500
Thanks so much, Rod. This really helps.
Funny thing about the uncoated hook..... When I installed the upgrade for
the software, it automatically set the hook type to "coated." It was lucky
that I noticed the timer being too high before I ran the machine very long.
My hook is uncoated. I certainly don't remember seeing anything about this
in the release notes. (That's not to say that I read them extremely
carefully.)
Mary
Mary Buckle
Shuffletown Embroidery
Charlotte, NC
704-398-1273
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Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:39 AM
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Breaks
Mary,
I have found that applying a droplet approximately the size of a B B, you
know, like they shoot out of BB guns, to each side of yellow roller hub
receptacle in the machine and on the red pinch roller axle hub, appears to
be sufficient. It doesn't, take all that much but as I mentioned before,
every needle receives different wear because of the individual use. Too much
lube and it will just get thrown around and guess where it may wind up
gravitating to? You guessed it, either on the thread, the garment, the
rollers or all of the above.
If most people are like Sharon and I , we have our favorite spot on the
thread pallet for red,white, blue and black. There are some others, but
these seem to be used more often than any of the others. It is only logical
then to assume that these needles/rollers/needle bars are going to need more
attention than the others. Grease/oil can dry up/out even if the lubricated
item is not being used. The rotary hook for example, to extend it's life ,
should be oiled more often. I advise clients that with continuous running,
to lubricate at least every 4 hours(uncoated hook) and to oil the hook at
the start of each day before running the first design.
The coated hooks are touted to be lubed every 600,000 stitches. These have a
black coating on them. I am from the old school and do let these go longer
between oiling, but if I am going to be doing a production run, I oil the
hook.
Rod Springer
Embroidery Cottage
Rod & Sharon Springer
Melco Amaya Tech & Trainer
Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing
Boise, ID 83713
208-938-3038
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shuffletown Embroidery" <shuffemb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:42 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Breaks
> Rod,
> Thank you for this explanation. I have been curious as to why we were
> being
> instructed to lubricate the hub of the rollers since the grease would just
> get everywhere.
> Can you find the words to say exactly how much grease to put on each side
> of
> the yellow thread feed rollers and on the red pinch roller? I would very
> much appreciate this info.
> Mary
>
> Mary Buckle
> Shuffletown Embroidery
> Charlotte, NC
> 704-398-1273
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rod or Sharon
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:35 AM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Breaks
>
> Beverly,
> The new style yellow rollers are a definite improvement over the black
> ones
> but they are critical to a couple of important items. The first is proper
> lubrication, especially the little red pinch rollers. Both the red pinch
> rollers and the yellow thread feed rollers need to be removed periodically
> and cleaned . It is difficult to say just how long between cleanings one
> should wait. This would depend on how much one needle is used over another
> and the wear each individual roller system would receive. Pop off a couple
> of the more used red pinch rollers, black or white thread for example or
> the
>
> ones that seem to be giving you the most trouble, and look carefully at
> the
> axle hub that it rotates on. If they appear dry and/or you can see a red
> powder looking residue on the axle hub the red pinch roller rotates on, it
> is imperative that they be cleaned and lubricated.
>
> A good pre-sign that lubrication may be the culprit, is the thread
> tracking
> to the left side of the roller as you indicated in your post.
>
> The second thing that is critical with the new rollers is that if any oil
> or
>
> grease gets on the surface of them, the tread will track clear off of the
> left side of the rollers and cause a bird-nest. They must be kept clean.
> To
> clean them, take them out----both the red pinch rollers and yellow thread
> feed rollers........, and wash them with warm soapy water, re-lubricate
> and
> replace them being very careful not to get any lubricating grease back on
> the surface of the rollers. I always wash my hands after applying the
> lubricating greas e with a cotton q-tip before re-attaching the red
> rollers
> and inserting the yellow rollers. I apply the grease to the axle hub the
> red
>
> roller rotates on and the hub area in the machine that the yellow roller
> rotates in, I do not apply any grease direcly to the rollers themselves as
> it is very difficult not to transfer grease all over the place.
>
> Another item worthy of mention, along this same line, is how long has it
> been since the needle bar shafts were last oiled? This too can create
> thread
>
> break problems for the same reason as above. Some needles get used more
> often than others and therefore should receive more attention in the
> lubrication field. How fast are you running your designs? Remember
> additional speed equals more friction which generates heat which means
> lubrication is and will be a very critical element in being successful
> while
>
> using the Amaya..
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Rod Springer
>
> Embroidery Cottage
> Rod & Sharon Springer
>
> Melco Amaya Tech & Trainer
> Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing
>
> Boise, ID 83713
> 208-938-3038
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beverly Thompson" <beverlyt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:32 AM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Breaks
>
>
>> Herb,
>>
>> thanks for the advice. I am running anvil rib tees, using 2 cutaway,
>> and
>> mt of 4. It seems that alot of times when it breaks there's a little
>> loop
>> of thread behind the roller wheel. also on some of the rollers it looks
>> like the yellow roller is far to the right and the thread barely on it.
>> Could that be a problem?
>> As far as the needles, I always check to see if the eye is straight, if
>> not
>> i make an adjustment there. thanks for the magnifer tip, i find i have
>> trouble seeing even with my glasses. So your saying go up to 6 mt and
>> try
>> that?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Beverly Thompson
>> Perdido Beach Embroidery
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "HK Acree" <hkacree@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:16 AM
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Breaks
>>
>>
>>> Bev,
>>> After the change in rollers the material thickness you were used to
>>> using
>>> changes. Bump it up by 2 to begin with then check your work and adjust
>>> accordingly. You should see far less thread breaks.
>>>
>>> As for your needles. Rod Springer really helped me on this one. Get a
>>> magnifier with the light in it. Cheap at Home Depot, $2.50.
>>> Look at the groove in the needle. This represents the eye. Tweak it a
>>> hair
>>> and the needles are set.
>>>
>>> Would appreciate some feedback on this.
>>>
>>> Herb
>>> Royal Embroidery
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Beverly Thompson" <beverlyt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 5:51 PM
>>> Subject: [amayausers] Thread Breaks
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Everybody,
>>>> did the roller upgrade on my machines, not the software. i am starting
>>>> to
>>>> get thread breaks again. some needles run good others not. I don't
>>>> think
>>>> it was how they were put in or anything because a tech did it.
>>>> Can someone tell me again how to clean the rollers in case its grease.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Beverly Thompson
>>>> Perdido Beach Embroidery
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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