Data was removed and transferred, programs uninstall, Much of this stuff was past retention anyway. I will never be a USA President so m y papers do not go into a library, Gerald --- On Tue, 11/2/10, John Durham <john.modec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: John Durham <john.modec@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [pchelpers] Re: Dist format or disk eraser utility To: pchelpers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 7:22 PM On 3/11/2010 7:51 a.m., Gerald Gollinger wrote: > John, > > I have a newer PC, I do not need anything. I do not drive. I > cannot lug this monster desktop looking for a home for it. Ek is > wrong. I bought a CD from Dell with IE a long time ago So I > was not entitled to a factory restore CD. Dell is a four > letter word and to me obscene. > > If format does not work I will remove the RAM. And discard the > power cord somewhere else. > > Gerald > --- On Tue, 11/2/10, John Durham<john.modec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I understand the sentiment well, but I cannot see why format wouldn't work. It would clear away the cludge of the present problem leaving a machine ready to be set up fresh. The most likely objection to it is the loss of valuable files. In that case, why not move as much as possible to a USB device before doing the other stuff as a safety precaution? -- Regards, John Durham Fax/Phone 64 4 5286786 PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Inventor of multi-spectral fibreoptics. Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied. Quote: What I cannot create, I do not understand. (Richard Feynman)