[macvoiceover] Re: Urgent help needed - getting VO to speak when booting from USB flash drive?
- From: Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:02:15 -0600
Well, to let you all know what the Apple guy figured out… for some reason, the
headphone jack in the back of my iMac isn't releasing the port when it's
unplugged, so, the computer still thinks the headphones are plugged in. He had
me plug and unplug the headphones quickly to see if it would release, and, for
a millisecond it did, but quickly quit again. Not sure what to do from here…
not a big enough deal to take my iMac in to the Apple store for, as it works
fine everywhere but in the recovery partition and on a boot disk, and, I don't
need to go there too often. The tech guy did find it extremely odd that this
would only happen in the recovery partition and boot disk, but no where else.
Thanks to everyone for your help with this!
Russell
On 2013-06-18, at 5:38 PM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yes, it sure was! I even tried resetting the NVRAM, but that didn't help[
> either. I have a guy at Apple checking into this and he is going to ask
> around and do some testing and get back to me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Russell
> On 2013-06-18, at 5:12 PM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Well, it was worth a shot, grin.
>> Keith Reedy
>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Keith,
>>>
>>> Nope, no matter how many times I press VO command up arrow, the speech does
>>> not come on without the headphones plugged in. Does the Mac have something
>>> similar to the Windows BIOS? If so, perhaps my speakers are somehow muted
>>> there? Other than that, I can't figure this one out… if it's a hardware
>>> issue, wouldn't the problem exist everywhere, even when I'm booted to the
>>> OS? Very weird.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Russell
>>> On 2013-06-18, at 1:59 PM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Russell,
>>>>
>>>> Its kind of strange, it will say 100, but, the volume will still increase.
>>>> Keith Reedy
>>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Keith,
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I'll go back to the recovery partition and try the VO command up
>>>>> arrows again… maybe I didn't press it enough times!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Russell
>>>>> On 2013-06-18, at 12:46 PM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that the thing to remember when installing is that even though
>>>>>> the volume says 100 percent keep raising the level until it gets to
>>>>>> where you like it. It has always been this way, have no idea why.
>>>>>> Keith Reedy
>>>>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:57 PM, John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have heard some situations where the volume is extremely low and
>>>>>>> requires headphones. In other instances, it's reasonable. I have no
>>>>>>> idea why this is the case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
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>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Russell Solowoniuk
>>>>>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I just spoke to someone at Apple Accessibility, and he also
>>>>>>>> confirmed that he was able to get VO to come on in the recovery
>>>>>>>> partition by pressing command F5. He did say that the sound wasn't
>>>>>>>> controllable at that level, but, not sure he knew what he was talking
>>>>>>>> about. He thought it very strange that I am having issues with VO not
>>>>>>>> coming on at the login screen, as well as the recovery partition. He
>>>>>>>> thinks that perhaps a reinstall will fix these issues. So, it looks
>>>>>>>> like I'll need to get sighted help for this one. I may just try one
>>>>>>>> more time with headphones on and see what happens.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Ricardo!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Russell
>>>>>>>> On 2013-06-18, at 8:04 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. I was in the ML recovery partition a couple of days ago. VO
>>>>>>>>> turned on with command F5, it was just really low. Honestly, if I
>>>>>>>>> wasn’t using headphones at the time, I might have not notice
>>>>>>>>> Voiceover was on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Russell Solowoniuk
>>>>>>>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ricardo,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I tried the Fn key with command F5, but no go. I now tried turning
>>>>>>>>>> up the volume, but that didn't work either. Ricardo, have you had
>>>>>>>>>> luck with getting VO to speak when booting from a thumb drive or SD
>>>>>>>>>> card? The strange thing is, I can't even get VO to speak when
>>>>>>>>>> booting to the ML recovery partition... is VO available at the ML
>>>>>>>>>> recovery partition, as far as you know? Wow, one of the things I
>>>>>>>>>> loved about my Mac over a Windows machine was the ability to
>>>>>>>>>> re-install the OS independently, but, it seems that functionality
>>>>>>>>>> may not be available anymore!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Ricardo!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Russell
>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-06-18, at 5:46 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The volume could be turned down very low as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Russell Solowoniuk
>>>>>>>>>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, yes. I tried Command F5 many, many times! :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking though!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-06-17, at 3:55 PM, John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know a simple question, but did you do a command-F5 to start
>>>>>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and LION
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Russell Solowoniuk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, I backed up all my files, and am now ready to do a clean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install of Mountain Lion. I am using a 16 GB SD card. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded Lion Disk Maker, and created a bootable SD card. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then inseted this card into my computer with an SD card reader,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> went to System Preferences and chose this SD card as the startup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive, and then restarted the computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My problem is that I am not able to get VO to start off of this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SD card! I know that I have booted to it because I called a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friend on FaceTime on my iPhone and had her look at the screen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have the options to install ML, go to Utilities, etc., but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't get VO to come on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if using Lion Disk Maker to create a bootable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SD card actually includes files to allow for VO use? Or, should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I create the bootable SD card using the Mac's own Disk Utilities?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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