Well, it was worth a shot, grin. Keith Reedy keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Keith, > > Nope, no matter how many times I press VO command up arrow, the speech does > not come on without the headphones plugged in. Does the Mac have something > similar to the Windows BIOS? If so, perhaps my speakers are somehow muted > there? Other than that, I can't figure this one out… if it's a hardware > issue, wouldn't the problem exist everywhere, even when I'm booted to the > OS? Very weird. > > Thanks, > > Russell > On 2013-06-18, at 1:59 PM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Russell, >> >> Its kind of strange, it will say 100, but, the volume will still increase. >> Keith Reedy >> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> On Jun 18, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >>> Hey Keith, >>> >>> Maybe I'll go back to the recovery partition and try the VO command up >>> arrows again… maybe I didn't press it enough times! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Russell >>> On 2013-06-18, at 12:46 PM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> I think that the thing to remember when installing is that even though the >>>> volume says 100 percent keep raising the level until it gets to where you >>>> like it. It has always been this way, have no idea why. >>>> Keith Reedy >>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:57 PM, John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have heard some situations where the volume is extremely low and >>>>> requires headphones. In other instances, it's reasonable. I have no >>>>> idea why this is the case. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Take Care >>>>> >>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>> Director >>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>> >>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION >>>>> >>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>> >>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I just spoke to someone at Apple Accessibility, and he also >>>>>> confirmed that he was able to get VO to come on in the recovery >>>>>> partition by pressing command F5. He did say that the sound wasn't >>>>>> controllable at that level, but, not sure he knew what he was talking >>>>>> about. He thought it very strange that I am having issues with VO not >>>>>> coming on at the login screen, as well as the recovery partition. He >>>>>> thinks that perhaps a reinstall will fix these issues. So, it looks >>>>>> like I'll need to get sighted help for this one. I may just try one >>>>>> more time with headphones on and see what happens. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Ricardo! >>>>>> >>>>>> Russell >>>>>> On 2013-06-18, at 8:04 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. I was in the ML recovery partition a couple of days ago. VO >>>>>>> turned on with command F5, it was just really low. Honestly, if I >>>>>>> wasn’t using headphones at the time, I might have not notice Voiceover >>>>>>> was on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Ricardo, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I tried the Fn key with command F5, but no go. I now tried turning up >>>>>>>> the volume, but that didn't work either. Ricardo, have you had luck >>>>>>>> with getting VO to speak when booting from a thumb drive or SD card? >>>>>>>> The strange thing is, I can't even get VO to speak when booting to the >>>>>>>> ML recovery partition... is VO available at the ML recovery partition, >>>>>>>> as far as you know? Wow, one of the things I loved about my Mac over >>>>>>>> a Windows machine was the ability to re-install the OS independently, >>>>>>>> but, it seems that functionality may not be available anymore! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Ricardo! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Russell >>>>>>>> On 2013-06-18, at 5:46 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The volume could be turned down very low as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Russell Solowoniuk >>>>>>>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey John, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Oh, yes. I tried Command F5 many, many times! :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking though! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Russell >>>>>>>>>> On 2013-06-17, at 3:55 PM, John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I know a simple question, but did you do a command-F5 to start >>>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and >>>>>>>>>>> LION >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Russell Solowoniuk >>>>>>>>>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, I backed up all my files, and am now ready to do a clean >>>>>>>>>>>> install of Mountain Lion. I am using a 16 GB SD card. I >>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded Lion Disk Maker, and created a bootable SD card. I >>>>>>>>>>>> then inseted this card into my computer with an SD card reader, >>>>>>>>>>>> went to System Preferences and chose this SD card as the startup >>>>>>>>>>>> drive, and then restarted the computer. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My problem is that I am not able to get VO to start off of this SD >>>>>>>>>>>> card! I know that I have booted to it because I called a friend >>>>>>>>>>>> on FaceTime on my iPhone and had her look at the screen. I have >>>>>>>>>>>> the options to install ML, go to Utilities, etc., but I can't get >>>>>>>>>>>> VO to come on. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if using Lion Disk Maker to create a bootable SD >>>>>>>>>>>> card actually includes files to allow for VO use? 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