[macvoiceover] Re: Urgent help needed - getting VO to speak when booting from USB flash drive?

  • From: Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:38:05 -0600

Yes, it sure was!  I even tried resetting the NVRAM, but that didn't help[ 
either.  I have a guy at Apple checking into this and he is going to ask around 
and do some testing and get back to me.

Thanks,

Russell
On 2013-06-18, at 5:12 PM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Well, it was worth a shot, grin.
> Keith Reedy
> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Keith,
>> 
>> Nope, no matter how many times I press VO command up arrow, the speech does 
>> not come on without the headphones plugged in.  Does the Mac have something 
>> similar to the Windows BIOS?  If so, perhaps my speakers are somehow muted 
>> there?  Other than that, I can't figure this one out… if it's a hardware 
>> issue, wouldn't the problem exist everywhere, even when  I'm booted to the 
>> OS?  Very weird.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Russell
>> On 2013-06-18, at 1:59 PM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> Russell,
>>> 
>>> Its kind of strange, it will say 100, but, the volume will still increase.
>>> Keith Reedy
>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hey Keith,
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe I'll go back to the recovery partition and try the VO command up 
>>>> arrows again… maybe I didn't press it enough times!
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Russell
>>>> On 2013-06-18, at 12:46 PM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I think that the thing to remember when installing is that even though 
>>>>> the volume says 100 percent keep raising the level until it gets to where 
>>>>> you like it.  It has always been this way, have no idea why.
>>>>> Keith Reedy
>>>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:57 PM, John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have heard some situations where the volume is extremely low and 
>>>>>> requires headphones.  In other instances, it's reasonable.  I have no 
>>>>>> idea why this is the case.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>> Director
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>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, I just spoke to someone at Apple Accessibility, and he also 
>>>>>>> confirmed that he was able to get VO to come on in the recovery 
>>>>>>> partition by pressing command F5.  He did say that the sound wasn't 
>>>>>>> controllable at that level, but, not sure he knew what he was talking 
>>>>>>> about.  He thought it very strange that I am having issues with VO not 
>>>>>>> coming on at the login screen, as well as the recovery partition.  He 
>>>>>>> thinks that perhaps a reinstall will fix these issues.  So, it looks 
>>>>>>> like I'll need to get sighted help for this one.  I may just try one 
>>>>>>> more time with headphones on and see what happens.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks Ricardo!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Russell 
>>>>>>> On 2013-06-18, at 8:04 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes.  I was in the ML recovery partition a couple of days ago.  VO 
>>>>>>>> turned on with command F5, it was just really low. Honestly, if I 
>>>>>>>> wasn’t using headphones at the time, I might have not notice Voiceover 
>>>>>>>> was on.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Russell Solowoniuk 
>>>>>>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Ricardo,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I tried the Fn key with command F5, but no go.  I now tried turning 
>>>>>>>>> up the volume, but that didn't work either.  Ricardo, have you had 
>>>>>>>>> luck with getting VO to speak when booting from a thumb drive or SD 
>>>>>>>>> card?  The strange thing is, I can't even get VO to speak when 
>>>>>>>>> booting to the ML recovery partition... is VO available at the ML 
>>>>>>>>> recovery partition, as far as you know?  Wow, one of the things I 
>>>>>>>>> loved about my Mac over a Windows machine was the ability to 
>>>>>>>>> re-install the OS independently, but, it seems that functionality may 
>>>>>>>>> not be available anymore!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Ricardo!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Russell
>>>>>>>>> On 2013-06-18, at 5:46 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The volume could be turned down very low as well.  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Russell Solowoniuk 
>>>>>>>>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey John,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, yes.  I tried Command F5 many, many times! :)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking though!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Russell
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-06-17, at 3:55 PM, John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know a simple question, but did you do a command-F5 to start 
>>>>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>>>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> LION
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Russell Solowoniuk 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, I backed up all my files, and am now ready to do a clean 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> install of Mountain Lion.  I am using a 16 GB SD card.  I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded Lion Disk Maker, and created a bootable SD card.  I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then inseted this card into my computer with an SD card reader, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> went to System Preferences and chose this SD card as the startup 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive, and then restarted the computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My problem is that I am not able to get VO to start off of this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SD card!  I know that I have booted to it because I called a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> friend on FaceTime on my iPhone and had her look at the screen.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have the options to install ML, go to Utilities, etc., but I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't get VO to come on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if using Lion Disk Maker to create a bootable SD 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> card actually includes files to allow for VO use?  Or, should I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> create the bootable SD card using the Mac's own Disk Utilities?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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