Yes, it sure was! I even tried resetting the NVRAM, but that didn't help[ either. I have a guy at Apple checking into this and he is going to ask around and do some testing and get back to me. Thanks, Russell On 2013-06-18, at 5:12 PM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Well, it was worth a shot, grin. > Keith Reedy > keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Hi Keith, >> >> Nope, no matter how many times I press VO command up arrow, the speech does >> not come on without the headphones plugged in. Does the Mac have something >> similar to the Windows BIOS? If so, perhaps my speakers are somehow muted >> there? Other than that, I can't figure this one out… if it's a hardware >> issue, wouldn't the problem exist everywhere, even when I'm booted to the >> OS? Very weird. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Russell >> On 2013-06-18, at 1:59 PM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Russell, >>> >>> Its kind of strange, it will say 100, but, the volume will still increase. >>> Keith Reedy >>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Keith, >>>> >>>> Maybe I'll go back to the recovery partition and try the VO command up >>>> arrows again… maybe I didn't press it enough times! >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Russell >>>> On 2013-06-18, at 12:46 PM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think that the thing to remember when installing is that even though >>>>> the volume says 100 percent keep raising the level until it gets to where >>>>> you like it. It has always been this way, have no idea why. >>>>> Keith Reedy >>>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:57 PM, John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have heard some situations where the volume is extremely low and >>>>>> requires headphones. In other instances, it's reasonable. I have no >>>>>> idea why this is the case. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Take Care >>>>>> >>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>> Director >>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>> >>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION >>>>>> >>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>> >>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, I just spoke to someone at Apple Accessibility, and he also >>>>>>> confirmed that he was able to get VO to come on in the recovery >>>>>>> partition by pressing command F5. He did say that the sound wasn't >>>>>>> controllable at that level, but, not sure he knew what he was talking >>>>>>> about. He thought it very strange that I am having issues with VO not >>>>>>> coming on at the login screen, as well as the recovery partition. He >>>>>>> thinks that perhaps a reinstall will fix these issues. So, it looks >>>>>>> like I'll need to get sighted help for this one. I may just try one >>>>>>> more time with headphones on and see what happens. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Ricardo! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Russell >>>>>>> On 2013-06-18, at 8:04 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes. I was in the ML recovery partition a couple of days ago. VO >>>>>>>> turned on with command F5, it was just really low. Honestly, if I >>>>>>>> wasn’t using headphones at the time, I might have not notice Voiceover >>>>>>>> was on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Russell Solowoniuk >>>>>>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Ricardo, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I tried the Fn key with command F5, but no go. I now tried turning >>>>>>>>> up the volume, but that didn't work either. Ricardo, have you had >>>>>>>>> luck with getting VO to speak when booting from a thumb drive or SD >>>>>>>>> card? The strange thing is, I can't even get VO to speak when >>>>>>>>> booting to the ML recovery partition... is VO available at the ML >>>>>>>>> recovery partition, as far as you know? Wow, one of the things I >>>>>>>>> loved about my Mac over a Windows machine was the ability to >>>>>>>>> re-install the OS independently, but, it seems that functionality may >>>>>>>>> not be available anymore! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Ricardo! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Russell >>>>>>>>> On 2013-06-18, at 5:46 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The volume could be turned down very low as well. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Russell Solowoniuk >>>>>>>>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey John, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Oh, yes. I tried Command F5 many, many times! :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking though! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Russell >>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-06-17, at 3:55 PM, John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I know a simple question, but did you do a command-F5 to start >>>>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and >>>>>>>>>>>> LION >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Russell Solowoniuk >>>>>>>>>>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, I backed up all my files, and am now ready to do a clean >>>>>>>>>>>>> install of Mountain Lion. I am using a 16 GB SD card. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded Lion Disk Maker, and created a bootable SD card. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> then inseted this card into my computer with an SD card reader, >>>>>>>>>>>>> went to System Preferences and chose this SD card as the startup >>>>>>>>>>>>> drive, and then restarted the computer. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My problem is that I am not able to get VO to start off of this >>>>>>>>>>>>> SD card! I know that I have booted to it because I called a >>>>>>>>>>>>> friend on FaceTime on my iPhone and had her look at the screen. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have the options to install ML, go to Utilities, etc., but I >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't get VO to come on. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if using Lion Disk Maker to create a bootable SD >>>>>>>>>>>>> card actually includes files to allow for VO use? 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