To put the matter in some perspective, amount of European Muslims that were involved in terrorist or proven to have planned any is what, fifty? Just to be safe, let's say one in hundred has actually been caught, which gives five thousand potential terrorists, or 0.00025% of the twenty million or so Muslims in Europe. Compare this to the fact that right-wing extremists poll support measured in full percents in most Europeans nations, and guess which I worry about more. I try to take seriously people who actually bother to study their subject, but is kind of hard to do so when same foaming mouths first point to disproportionate amount of Muslim imprisoned (a fact, and true of many other minorities too) and then start on how they get away with everything. (I wasn't thinking of Lawrence but the authors he quotes.) Kind of reminds of the Soviet proganda on American Racism, yes the problem is and was real, but the way it was presented was completely over the top. Furthermore, I don't know what causes someone to blow himself up in the tube, but I am pretty sure any adequate answer is complex and invidual. I've had it with the chattering classes and the casual ease by which they move from large structural issue of failures of integration, that comes in many forms and has even more causes, to particular incidents involving a tiny fraction of the group in question. As the ultimate philosophical insult goes, it is too vague to be even wrong. Yours, Teemu Helsinki, Finland __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html