Right, "Total nonsense. Totally untrue. No problem with race. No problem with integration. No Muslim problem. No problem with multiculturalism. Everything fair under the law." Those are the sorts of responses that Bawer noticed and quotes along with evidence to the contrary. Ergo the title of his book and his emphasis that Europe is sleeping. Bawer went into this in some detail: What do Europeans do when someone describes a problem with Muslims? Why, attack the person describing the problem, of course. Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judith Evans Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:45 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Londonistan This is all very well, Eric (I don't want to argue with the details right now). It really doesn't excuse the total nonsense that's been either quoted or said on this list lately. E.g. Lawrence's >You should read how the Muslims getting away with almost anything LH>they like and the judges and cops are letting them so as not to seem racist. this is simply untrue. Judy Evans, Cardiff ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html