I think your "betrayal" emphasis, requiring the reading of Bush's mind, off base. He may be mistaken, but I don't believe he is betraying the fundamental principle of free speech. We have wrestled with this issue here on Lit-Ideas and I'm sure they have wrestled with it in the White House. Several people on Lit-Ideas have come to the same conclusion as Bush's. Are they betraying the fundamental principle of free speech? I agree with the Danish position because I think that the cartoons are in the main stream of Western humor. The Islamist/Muslim demands seem unreasonable to me and I am inclined to stand up to them. However, I have seen other arguments and can understand them. People who don't want their own religion maligned feel sympathy for the Muslims. However, the Christian religion has been made fun of in cartoons and Christians have not responded like Muslims; so we aren't quite talking about the same thing. We must ask whether it is ever justified to burn embassies and kill people when we are offended. If the answer is no then we should not be sympathizing with the Muslims on this. It is almost as though they are having a collective tantrum. One wants to give them a "time out" and send them to their room. Lawrence. By coincidence, Geary has made himself a parallel. He was offensive in the -----Original Message----- From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of P.H.Lundbech Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:41 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Link to "Mohammed" cartoons On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 23:22:12 -0800, "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >The official position from the White House is that the U.S. condemns >the cartoons but condemns the violence as well. At first they (including one former president) condemned the cartoons trying to use what they then thought was a small relatively unimportant matter to gain a little much needed goodwill from the arabs. Then it blew up in their face when embassies were set on fire and the US government suddenly found they were supporting the terroist regime in Syria. Then suddenly free speech seemed important once again... It has nothing to do with the U.S. as "a voice of moderation". They were willing to betray a fundamental principle of our way of life for the benefit of some short-term diplomatic gains. P. H. Lundbech Odense, DK ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html