[geocentrism] Re: Moon phases
- From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:55:47 +1000
I do not have to say I hope you are right Gary, I KNOW you are right..but for
very much different reason.. anyway, you said,
It is not a phenomenological language issue at all; it is the simple fact that
"new" has more than one dictionary denotation."
I really was impressed with that phenomenal language lol. But so does the word
"rise" have more than one dictionary meaning...
It surp rise d even me.... heres a sample.
2 : to return from death as the egyptians took the sunrise to mean.
5 chiefly British : to end a session : ADJOURN
9 a : to become heartened or elated <his spirits rose> b : to increase in
fervor or intensity <my anger rose as I thought about the insult>
10 a : to attain a higher level or rank <officers who rose from the ranks> b :
to increase in quantity or number
11 a : to take place : HAPPEN b : to come into being : ORIGINATE
12 : to follow as a consequence : RESULT
13 : to exert oneself to meet a challenge <rise to the occasion>
14 : the distance or elevation of one point above another
15 a : an increase especially in amount, number, or volume b chiefly British :
RAISE 3b c : an increase in price, value, rate, or sum <a rise in the cost of
living>
16 : an angry reaction <got a rise out of him
17 : the distance from the crotch to the waistline on pants
Eccleasr.1 5The sun riseth, and goeth down, and returneth to his place: and
there rising again, 6Maketh his round by the south, and turneth again to the
north: the spirit goeth forward surveying all places round about, and returneth
to his circuits. DR
5The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where
he arose.
6The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it
whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his
circuits. KJV
5oritur sol et occidit et ad locum suum revertitur ibique renascens
6gyrat per meridiem et flectitur ad aquilonem lustrans universa circuitu
pergit spiritus et in circulos suos regreditur
vulgate.
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Shelton
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:20 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon phases
Philip,
You were quick to jump on this like a BA-er would, and it is
plausible...sounding. But, you are comparing apples to oranges, don't you
think?
That the sun does rise is a proper geocentric term taken literally.
That the moon is "new" each month is also a proper geocentric term taken
literally.
I make this statement due to the sense of the use of the word "new". Here
in the states it is a common thing to say one has a "new" car. Now that car
may be a 1992 clunker, but if it's something that person just purchased,
then it is still called "new". It is understood that the car is not really
"new" by the parties involved.
Likewise, you seem to only be allowing Jack one definition for the word
"new" here. The moon is new each month. That doesn't mean God created it
brand spanking "new" at that time. It is not a phenomenological language
issue at all; it is the simple fact that "new" has more than one dictionary
denotation.
Sincerely,
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 4:37 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Moon phases
> Dear Gary,
> Does the Bible not mention 'new Moon' somewhere?
> Jack
>
> Now who said the Bible has to be taken literally, and not in the
vernacular, i e The sun "rises?" in the east,, is only an expression of
what is seen...
>
> What we call a "new" moon is not new at all, is it.. ? So must we look
literally for an old moon?
>
> There is a new moon in the bible Jack then you might have just made a big
argument against us re the written word of God, not being literal, but uses
our figures of speech....
>
> 1 Kings 20-5
> 4 kings 4-23
> psalm 80
> Ezechial 46
>
> Philip.
>
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