[geocentrism] Re: Ancient calendars
- From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 08:21:38 +1000
I moved our family Sabbath from Sunday to Saturday as soon as it was pointed
out to me that the Sabbath has never changed. A pope "changed" it sometime
around 321 AD,....Neville
Neville, seventh can never be First....This is a misnomer. and you should
verify your history...
On the Sabbath.
To me the Sabbath is Saturday... It was not and could not be changed to Sunday
by anyone... Just as a man can't be aunty, neither can seventh, be the First.
.....Saturday is still a holy day. which is why the Christian era, has
maintained two days free from servile work. (Called the weekend.) Though no one
respects either day today.
Sunday was made a holy day of obligation, which gave it a special position in
honour of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ..The Lords day . .A matter of
emphasis true, but simply a matter of discipline... The Holy sacrifice (the
everlasting sacrifice of Daniel) must be celebrated every single day, and
Catholics are encouraged to attend it every day, if not in the flesh, then most
definitely in the spirit... Where once for two thousand years this sacrifice
would have been continuous in time around the globe, That also has gone down
the tubes today. .
Daniel 12-11 And from the time when the continual sacrifice shall be taken
away, and the abomination unto desolation shall be set up, there shall be a
thousand two hundred ninety days.
15 When therefore you shall see the abomination of desolation, which was
spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place: he that readeth
let
him understand. Daniel 9-27
Sunday was the first day of the week according to the Jewish method of
reckoning, but for Christians it began to take the place of the Jewish Sabbath
in Apostolic times as the day set apart for the public and solemn worship of
God. The practice of meeting together on the first day of the week for the
celebration of the Eucharistic Sacrifice is indicated in Acts, xx 7; I Cor.,
xvi, 2; in Apoc., i, 10, it is called the Lord's day. In the Didache (xiv) the
injunction is given: "On the Lord's Day come together and break bread. And give
thanks (offer the Eucharist), after confessing your sins that your sacrifice
may be pure".
These and similar indications show that during the first three centuries
practice and tradition had consecrated the Sunday to the public worship of God
by the hearing of the Mass and the resting from work. With the opening of the
fourth century positive legislation, both ecclesiastical and civil, began to
make these duties more definite. The Council of Elvira (300) decreed: "If
anyone in the city neglects to come to church for three Sundays, let him be
excommunicated for a short time so that he may be corrected" (xxi
If you want to know the truths of the Catholic faith, ask the Church. Can you
expect the truth from her enemies?
Would your enemies tell the truth about you? Would you ask the Devil for the
truth about God?
For the full Catholic position, there is a short article from the Catholic
Encyclopaedia, here.\
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14335a.htm
Another interesting and excellent article on the Sabbath, "Whether Christ
conformed His conduct to the Law?", see
http://www.newadvent.org/summa/404004.htm
I get frustrated by the enemies of the Church making reference to men managing
the disciplines and commandments of God. Yet did not Jesus accept and
acknowledge this in Scripture, particulatly Moses, whom he mentions many times,
7 They say to him: Why then did Moses command to give a bill of divorce, and
to put away?
8 He saith to them: Because Moses by reason of the hardness of your heart
permitted you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
No one denies the powers of the Priests of the Old teastament, and St Paul
mentions the priests of the NT in several places.
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dr. Neville Jones
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 9:20 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Ancient calendars
I would like to take this opportunity to welcome Dr. Felland to the forum.
Judging by his first posting, he will be of great benefit to our discussions.
I moved our family Sabbath from Sunday to Saturday as soon as it was pointed
out to me that the Sabbath has never changed. A pope "changed" it sometime
around 321 AD, but failed to realize that he had no authority to do so. The
Sabbath was instigated by God and God has never changed the Sabbath day.
The main reason for a Sabbath is for the Israelites to remember how God took
them by the hand and led them out of captivity in Egypt.
In the same way, Bush would do well to remember that he has no authority to
try and take what God has given to the Jews and hand it over to the Philistines.
Whoops. Where was I? Oh, yes, geocentrism ...
Neville.
Amnon <yerushabel3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
At the time of the bloody schism of the Julian-Gregorian calendrical
reform, when it was suggested to Pope Gregory (1582) that it might be
easier to adopt the proven Jewish calendar, he exclaimed: " 'tis better
to be wrong with the calendar than right with the Jews!".
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Only the intercalary Jewish calendar has managed to reconcile so well
for so long the three distinct geocentric motions of the solar (the
year), lunar (the month) and diurnal (day) periods.
H<>ow unlike the calendars of the nations. The Christian world has its
years correctly calculated, but not the months. The 365 days of the year
are arbitrarily divided into twelve months, which themselves have no
relation to the orbit of the moon.
The Moslems have correct months, but incorrect years. They simply make
the twelve lunar months into a year of 354 days, which is eleven short!
The result is that their festivals are not bound to the seasons of the
year, and keep shifting, now to the spring, now to the winter, and then
to the summer: not exactly conducive to calmness of spirit. Some hold
this as being partly responsible for the volatility of the Muslim
character!
Carl Felland wrote:
My family and I began to observe a solar/lunar "Creation calendar"
(Gen.
1: 14) about a year ago in which the 6 working days, weekly Sabbaths,
and New Moon Days are mutually exclusive (Eze. 46: 1, 3
1. IN BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY, THE WORLD DOES NOT ROTATE.
Website www.midclyth.supanet.com
Neville.
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