[GeoStL] Re: December 31st, 2010,terracaching will shut down

  • From: Abby Hager <abbyhager@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:09:52 -0600

can i be taken off of this mailing list... i love and will continue to
geocache i don't need all of this back and forth

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Michael Rogers <mrogers07@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> You fail to grasp my point, Jim. What you define as lame does not mean
> everyone else thinks it's lame. My problem with your opinion is that you
> think that what constitutes lame in your eyes should be accepted as law by
> everyone else.
>
> As Andrew said, find caches that you like and hunt them...if you don't like
> other caches, don't.
>
> -Michael
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Jim Bensman <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Tue, November 30, 2010 10:52:58 AM
> *Subject:* [GeoStL] Re: December 31st, 2010,terracaching will shut down
>
> -
> Absolutely!  I do not think every cache should be wheel chair accessible.
> It sounds like you are suggesting they should all be wheelchair accessible.
> I've seen lots of quality wheel chair accessible caches (the one I
> described
> is wheel chair accessible) and I have seen lots of lame wheel chair
> accessible caches.  You can filter for wheel chair accessibility but you
> cannot filter for lameness.
>
> Jim Bensman
> "Nature Bats Last"
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-
> > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Senger
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:41 AM
> > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: December 31st, 2010,terracaching will shut down
> >
> > -
> > So you feel that people in wheelchairs shouldn't be afforded the same
> > number of opportunities to find caches as someone who isn't?
> >
> > I've said it before: if you don't like the caches, don't do them.
> > There are thousands others out there that will appease your needs.
> >
> >
> > Andrew Senger
> > asenger@xxxxxxxxx
> > http://www.yawetag.net
> > "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. He's also
> > postmaster and probably traffic cop, too. All the jobs for sports
> > referees are probably filled, though." --Lemel Hebert-Williams
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Jim Bensman <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > It would not be so bad if the quantity caches had not overwhelmed the
> > > quality caches and there was no way to filter out the caches that
> > don’t take
> > > you to an interesting location or hide a cache in a creative way.
> > Look at
> > > that video I posted the link to.  How many people consider that
> > geocaching?
> > > That is what the numbers hounds are pushing caching too.  I say it is
> > time
> > > to push back against the nothing matters but numbers crowd and push
> > for what
> > > Geocaching started out as.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The argument that some people cannot go after more physically
> > challenging
> > > caches is a red herring.  The issue is if the cache placer throws a
> > cache
> > > any place it is possible to place a cache or takes the time to find
> > an
> > > interesting and appropriate spot for a cache.  So many of these
> > numbers
> > > caches are placed on store parking lots without obtaining permission
> > to
> > > place the cache on the private property.  A fairly new cache placed
> > over by
> > > me was in a parking lot by a mural and the cache page indicated they
> > had
> > > permission from the owner.  That’s the distinction between quality
> > and
> > > quantity.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim Bensman
> > > "Nature Bats Last"
> > >
> > > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bernie Ver Hey
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:48 AM
> > > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: December 31st, 2010,terracaching will shut down
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well put, Michael. Bernie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Rogers
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:57 AM
> > > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: December 31st, 2010,terracaching will shut down
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Again, this all boils down to personal choice.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You may not like a lot of the caches out there, Jim, but many people
> > do. I
> > > know you don't like puzzle caches and apparently don't like working
> > on them
> > > (as evidenced by your map page that requests puzzle cache solutions
> > in lieu
> > > of donations) but I personally like them, as do many others. Should
> > they be
> > > banned just because you don't like them and have been around in this
> > hobby a
> > > long time?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Let people enjoy caching as they see fit to enjoy it. You may not
> > agree with
> > > it, but one person's feeling shouldn't be able to trump the feeling
> > of
> > > others...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: Jim Bensman <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 10:48:20 PM
> > > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: December 31st, 2010,terracaching will shut down
> > >
> > > -
> > > Actually, lots of the number hounds cannot be bothered with taking
> > the time
> > > to log a cache.  So they have developed shuffling.  They replace the
> > first
> > > container with one with a signed log, they sign the log on the way to
> > the
> > > next cache, and then replace the cache with the previous cache.  Then
> > they
> > > act like they are super cachers.
> > >
> > > I've been thinking of a cache and calling it the "Yellow Jeep
> > Cache."  It
> > > would be an ammo box with 30 black decoy film canisters.  Then there
> > would
> > > be a clear film canister that is the real cache.  You will be able to
> > log it
> > > every time you put the clear one back in and refind it.  I think I
> > would
> > > limit it to 5,000 finds a day (and each could be a FTF in its new
> > > location).  I would only require them to sticker the log once and
> > then put
> > > how many times they found it on the log.
> > >
> > > Jim Bensman
> > > "Nature Bats Last"
> >
> >
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