- So you feel that people in wheelchairs shouldn't be afforded the same number of opportunities to find caches as someone who isn't? I've said it before: if you don't like the caches, don't do them. There are thousands others out there that will appease your needs. Andrew Senger asenger@xxxxxxxxx http://www.yawetag.net "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. He's also postmaster and probably traffic cop, too. All the jobs for sports referees are probably filled, though." --Lemel Hebert-Williams On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Jim Bensman <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It would not be so bad if the quantity caches had not overwhelmed the > quality caches and there was no way to filter out the caches that don’t take > you to an interesting location or hide a cache in a creative way. Look at > that video I posted the link to. How many people consider that geocaching? > That is what the numbers hounds are pushing caching too. I say it is time > to push back against the nothing matters but numbers crowd and push for what > Geocaching started out as. > > > > The argument that some people cannot go after more physically challenging > caches is a red herring. The issue is if the cache placer throws a cache > any place it is possible to place a cache or takes the time to find an > interesting and appropriate spot for a cache. So many of these numbers > caches are placed on store parking lots without obtaining permission to > place the cache on the private property. A fairly new cache placed over by > me was in a parking lot by a mural and the cache page indicated they had > permission from the owner. That’s the distinction between quality and > quantity. > > > > Jim Bensman > "Nature Bats Last" > > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bernie Ver Hey > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:48 AM > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: December 31st, 2010,terracaching will shut down > > > > Well put, Michael. Bernie > > > > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Rogers > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:57 AM > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: December 31st, 2010,terracaching will shut down > > > > Again, this all boils down to personal choice. > > > > You may not like a lot of the caches out there, Jim, but many people do. I > know you don't like puzzle caches and apparently don't like working on them > (as evidenced by your map page that requests puzzle cache solutions in lieu > of donations) but I personally like them, as do many others. Should they be > banned just because you don't like them and have been around in this hobby a > long time? > > > > Let people enjoy caching as they see fit to enjoy it. You may not agree with > it, but one person's feeling shouldn't be able to trump the feeling of > others... > > > > -Michael > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Jim Bensman <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 10:48:20 PM > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: December 31st, 2010,terracaching will shut down > > - > Actually, lots of the number hounds cannot be bothered with taking the time > to log a cache. So they have developed shuffling. They replace the first > container with one with a signed log, they sign the log on the way to the > next cache, and then replace the cache with the previous cache. Then they > act like they are super cachers. > > I've been thinking of a cache and calling it the "Yellow Jeep Cache." It > would be an ammo box with 30 black decoy film canisters. Then there would > be a clear film canister that is the real cache. You will be able to log it > every time you put the clear one back in and refind it. I think I would > limit it to 5,000 finds a day (and each could be a FTF in its new > location). I would only require them to sticker the log once and then put > how many times they found it on the log. > > Jim Bensman > "Nature Bats Last" **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes to your account, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw Missouri Geocaching land policies --> http://tinyurl.com/lgyy84 Missouri Geocachers Forums --> http://mogeo.ipbhost.com/index.php Missouri Geocachers Calendar ---> http://mogeo.ipbhost.com/index.php?app=calendar