[TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re: intermittent rca
- From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:31:23 -0400
Thats a good question and the answer is related to what causes the failure
in the first place. If the original part was from a bad batch then
replacement is the solution. If the failures are due to a design deficiency
then the solution is replacement with a part that has better specs.
Jerry Silverman
Greentron Inc
4 Newland Ave
Greenville SC 29609
Fax/Phone 864 232 3889
mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:49 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re:
intermittent rca
> That seems to be the same opinion most techs have, but what says a new
> part with unknown reliability will outlast a good working part? No need
> to answer, just my opinion and I'm sure I will not change anyones mind.
>
>
> ********************************
> Since 1972 *
> Jim Myers *
> Telrad Electronics *
> Fort Wayne Indiana *
> ********************************
>
>
> gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Jim,
> >
> > I replace them just because they give so much trouble and I don't want a
> > recall because of it. A couple of bucks added when you're already in
> > there is a non-issue.
> >
> >
> > Kenneth Smith
> > Gulf Technical Services
> > 3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
> > Gulf Breeze, FL 32563
> > 850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 05:43:19 -0500 Jim Myers <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > writes:
> >
> >>That is just what CR4118 does in the 169 chassis, drops to maybe 7 or
> >>8
> >>volts when power is pressed. I only replace them when bad, why
> >>replace a
> >>good part at random?
> >>
> >>
> >>********************************
> >>Since 1972 *
> >>Jim Myers *
> >>Telrad Electronics *
> >>Fort Wayne Indiana *
> >>********************************
> >>
> >>
> >>Kevin wrote:
> >>
> >>>I repair mostly TV's. I had one CTC177 with a bad diode in the 15
> >>
> >>volt
> >>
> >>>line causing intermittent video. The voltage was dropping to 11
> >>
> >>volts
> >>
> >>>and the diode tested good out of circuit. All this proves is that
> >>
> >>we
> >>
> >>>all have different experiences with what repairs we get in. Just
> >>
> >>like
> >>
> >>>very few techs have ever changed a flyback in a CTC169 chassis. I
> >>
> >>have
> >>
> >>>replaced 3 in 8 years.
> >>>
> >>>Kevin Wilks
> >>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair
> >>>Penticton BC Canada
> >>>kevintv@xxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Electric
> >>
> >>Medic
> >>
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 12:13 AM
> >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: [TechAssist] [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re:
> >>>intermittent rca
> >>>
> >>>You're joking right, or you don't work on TV's right? You have
> >>
> >>never had
> >>
> >>>a
> >>>CTC169 with a bad CR4118 causing dead or intermittent or color
> >>
> >>problems?
> >>
> >>>Something is not adding up here, has Google sent customers in here
> >>
> >>with
> >>
> >>>us
> >>>Techs? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>>
> >>>Perry Bower
> >>>Electric Medic
> >>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> >>>http://www.electricmedic.com
> >>>3850 Washington Road Suite 4C
> >>>Martinez, Georgia 30907
> >>>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424)
> >>>Phone: 706-863-3474
> >>>Fax: 706-863-2316
> >>>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kevin
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:49 AM
> >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re:
> >>>intermittent rca
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I have never had one cause a problem. What voltage line is CR4118
> >>
> >>on?
> >>
> >>>Should I be replacing them when I have never seen one fail?
> >>>
> >>>Kevin Wilks
> >>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair
> >>>Penticton BC Canada
> >>>kevintv@xxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Electric
> >>
> >>Medic
> >>
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 9:58 PM
> >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re:
> >>>intermittent rca
> >>>
> >>>Please put Make, Model (or Chassis), and Problem in subject line.
> >>
> >>Then
> >>
> >>>email
> >>>can be filed Automatically, Thanks. CR4118 should go without
> >>
> >>saying. Of
> >>
> >>>course it will fix intermittent operation. That is the first part
> >>
> >>we
> >>
> >>>change
> >>>on all CTC169's regardless of customers problem. I would think all
> >>
> >>shops
> >>
> >>>would change this on all CTC169 repairs, we do, don't we?
> >>>
> >>>Perry Bower
> >>>Electric Medic
> >>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> >>>http://www.electricmedic.com
> >>>3850 Washington Road Suite 4C
> >>>Martinez, Georgia 30907
> >>>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424)
> >>>Phone: 706-863-3474
> >>>Fax: 706-863-2316
> >>>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Gary
> >>
> >>McCartney
> >>
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 12:48 AM
> >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: intermittant rca
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Don't know if this will cure it but it has been recommended by
> >>
> >>many
> >>
> >>>techs to replace CR4118 (RCA # 164590 or FR302 generic)in every
> >>
> >>CTC169
> >>
> >>>that comes into the shop, whether it appears to be OK or not. This
> >>
> >>diode
> >>
> >>>causes a lot of strange symptoms.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Gary McCartney
> >>>
> >>>McCartney Electronics
> >>>Guelph Ontario Canada
> >>>Est. 1984
> >>>email: gary (at) number63.ca
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>GRAYSTV@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>we have a 35 " rca ctc169BG5 that shuts down very intermitantly.
> >>
> >>like
> >>
> >>>once
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>a day. I measured the b+ after it shutdown and it did not waver.
> >>
> >>when
> >>
> >>>it
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>tried to turn on.otherwise i can't get a test. i have replaced
> >>>>c4102,c4108,c4104,c612,cr4401,c4406,cr4402, c4403, and c4404. does
> >>>
> >>>anyone
> >>>have any advice??
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>GraysTV/Glenn Gray
> >>>>Berlin Ht's.OH 44814
> >>>>Phone (419) 588-2325
> >>>>graystv@xxxxxxx
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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