[TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re: intermittent rca

  • From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:04:16 -0400

And this is what's killing people fixing these because in 6 months the thing 
is broke again. If you fix it so it doesn't come back these people will 
recommend you.
Al Marquardt
ampm@xxxxxxx
Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
206 W Main
Girardville Pa. 17935
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peggs" <peggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:01 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re: 
intermittent rca


>" I can get a 2nd repair about 9 - 12 months later,"
> ........this is what I'm trying to avoid,as a service to the customer.
>
> We are talking about a $1 part,not a Battery.
> Plus,the OEM diodes fail quite often.............it's up to you.
> I,as was mentioned before,tell the customers about the PS Primary
> Capacitors,even the HV Block if the
> OEM is still in there.
>
> Peggs
>
> At 05:43 PM 4/6/05, Damon wrote:
>>Why NOT replace it,to avoid Returns ??? - Peggs
>>
>>Because by measuring the actual voltage on the diode, I can get a 2nd 
>>repair
>>about 9 - 12 months later, out of warranty. Orrrrrr I can replace it now 
>>and
>>avoid that callback......just depends on the actual voltage I see on my
>>meter.....if it's 13 Volts or higher I don't touch it.
>>
>>You know, that's like taking your car in for a radiator repair and the guy
>>there throws in a battery because he knows it's going to fail.....and
>>charges you for it.....
>>
>>Damon Brunger
>>Telrad Electronics
>>Fort Wayne IN
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "peggs" <peggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:45 AM
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re:
>>intermittent rca
>>
>>
>> > It's a $1 part.
>> > It fails frequently.
>> > Why NOT replace it,to avoid Returns ???
>> >
>> > Peggs
>> >
>> > At 06:02 AM 4/6/05, J. Knoll wrote:
>> > >I was doing that but after a few returns a month later after the 
>> > >original
>> > >repair I started replacing that diode automatically to avoid wasting 
>> > >time
>> > >with returns. I hate the 169 and the less time on the bench with one 
>> > >the
>> > >better.
>> > >Jay-Jays tv
>> > >On Apr 6, 2005 8:36 AM, Damon <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Actually I monitor CR4118's voltage to determine whether it needs
>>replaced
>> > > > or not.
>> > > > 14 volts -OK
>> > > >
>> > > > 12 Volts - Replace
>> > > >
>> > > > 10 Volts - Bad
>> > > >
>> > > > and there's a big wide replace area with skinny -OK / Bad sections 
>> > > > if
>>you
>> > > > want to make a meter out of it....;-)
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes replacing CR4118 will cover a multitude of 
>> > > > problems/intermittants.
>> > > >
>> > > > Damon Brunger
>> > > > Telrad Electronics
>> > > > Fort Wayne IN
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:58 PM
>> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re:
>> > > > intermittent rca
>> > > >
>> > > > > Please put Make, Model (or Chassis), and Problem in subject line.
>>Then
>> > > > email
>> > > > > can be filed Automatically, Thanks. CR4118 should go without 
>> > > > > saying.
>>Of
>> > > > > course it will fix intermittent operation. That is the first part 
>> > > > > we
>> > > > change
>> > > > > on all CTC169's regardless of customers problem. I would think 
>> > > > > all
>>shops
>> > > > > would change this on all CTC169 repairs, we do, don't we?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Perry Bower
>> > > > > Electric Medic
>> > > > > "It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
>> > > > > http://www.electricmedic.com
>> > > > > 3850 Washington Road Suite 4C
>> > > > > Martinez, Georgia 30907
>> > > > > Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424)
>> > > > > Phone: 706-863-3474
>> > > > > Fax: 706-863-2316
>> > > > > mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Gary 
>> > > > > McCartney
>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 12:48 AM
>> > > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: intermittant rca
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Don't know if this will cure it but it has been recommended by 
>> > > > > many
>> > > > > techs to replace CR4118 (RCA # 164590 or FR302 generic)in every
>>CTC169
>> > > > > that comes into the shop, whether it appears to be OK or not. 
>> > > > > This
>>diode
>> > > > > causes a lot of strange symptoms.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Gary McCartney
>> > > > >
>> > > > > McCartney Electronics
>> > > > > Guelph Ontario Canada
>> > > > > Est. 1984
>> > > > > email: gary (at) number63.ca
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > GRAYSTV@xxxxxxx wrote:
>> > > > > > we have a 35 " rca ctc169BG5 that shuts down very 
>> > > > > > intermitantly.
>>like
>> > > > > once
>> > > > > > a day. I measured the b+ after it shutdown and it did not 
>> > > > > > waver.
>>when
>> > > > it
>> > > > > > tried to turn on.otherwise i can't get a test. i have replaced
>> > > > > > c4102,c4108,c4104,c612,cr4401,c4406,cr4402, c4403, and c4404. 
>> > > > > > does
>> > > > anyone
>> > > > > have any advice??
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > GraysTV/Glenn Gray
>> > > > > > Berlin Ht's.OH 44814
>> > > > > > Phone (419) 588-2325
>> > > > > > graystv@xxxxxxx
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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