And this is what's killing people fixing these because in 6 months the thing is broke again. If you fix it so it doesn't come back these people will recommend you. Al Marquardt ampm@xxxxxxx Al Marquardt Electronic Repair 206 W Main Girardville Pa. 17935 ----- Original Message ----- From: "peggs" <peggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:01 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re: intermittent rca >" I can get a 2nd repair about 9 - 12 months later," > ........this is what I'm trying to avoid,as a service to the customer. > > We are talking about a $1 part,not a Battery. > Plus,the OEM diodes fail quite often.............it's up to you. > I,as was mentioned before,tell the customers about the PS Primary > Capacitors,even the HV Block if the > OEM is still in there. > > Peggs > > At 05:43 PM 4/6/05, Damon wrote: >>Why NOT replace it,to avoid Returns ??? - Peggs >> >>Because by measuring the actual voltage on the diode, I can get a 2nd >>repair >>about 9 - 12 months later, out of warranty. Orrrrrr I can replace it now >>and >>avoid that callback......just depends on the actual voltage I see on my >>meter.....if it's 13 Volts or higher I don't touch it. >> >>You know, that's like taking your car in for a radiator repair and the guy >>there throws in a battery because he knows it's going to fail.....and >>charges you for it..... >> >>Damon Brunger >>Telrad Electronics >>Fort Wayne IN >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "peggs" <peggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:45 AM >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re: >>intermittent rca >> >> >> > It's a $1 part. >> > It fails frequently. >> > Why NOT replace it,to avoid Returns ??? >> > >> > Peggs >> > >> > At 06:02 AM 4/6/05, J. Knoll wrote: >> > >I was doing that but after a few returns a month later after the >> > >original >> > >repair I started replacing that diode automatically to avoid wasting >> > >time >> > >with returns. I hate the 169 and the less time on the bench with one >> > >the >> > >better. >> > >Jay-Jays tv >> > >On Apr 6, 2005 8:36 AM, Damon <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Actually I monitor CR4118's voltage to determine whether it needs >>replaced >> > > > or not. >> > > > 14 volts -OK >> > > > >> > > > 12 Volts - Replace >> > > > >> > > > 10 Volts - Bad >> > > > >> > > > and there's a big wide replace area with skinny -OK / Bad sections >> > > > if >>you >> > > > want to make a meter out of it....;-) >> > > > >> > > > Yes replacing CR4118 will cover a multitude of >> > > > problems/intermittants. >> > > > >> > > > Damon Brunger >> > > > Telrad Electronics >> > > > Fort Wayne IN >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:58 PM >> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re: >> > > > intermittent rca >> > > > >> > > > > Please put Make, Model (or Chassis), and Problem in subject line. >>Then >> > > > email >> > > > > can be filed Automatically, Thanks. CR4118 should go without >> > > > > saying. >>Of >> > > > > course it will fix intermittent operation. That is the first part >> > > > > we >> > > > change >> > > > > on all CTC169's regardless of customers problem. I would think >> > > > > all >>shops >> > > > > would change this on all CTC169 repairs, we do, don't we? >> > > > > >> > > > > Perry Bower >> > > > > Electric Medic >> > > > > "It's Cheaper to Keep Her" >> > > > > http://www.electricmedic.com >> > > > > 3850 Washington Road Suite 4C >> > > > > Martinez, Georgia 30907 >> > > > > Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424) >> > > > > Phone: 706-863-3474 >> > > > > Fax: 706-863-2316 >> > > > > mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Gary >> > > > > McCartney >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 12:48 AM >> > > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: intermittant rca >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Don't know if this will cure it but it has been recommended by >> > > > > many >> > > > > techs to replace CR4118 (RCA # 164590 or FR302 generic)in every >>CTC169 >> > > > > that comes into the shop, whether it appears to be OK or not. >> > > > > This >>diode >> > > > > causes a lot of strange symptoms. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Gary McCartney >> > > > > >> > > > > McCartney Electronics >> > > > > Guelph Ontario Canada >> > > > > Est. 1984 >> > > > > email: gary (at) number63.ca >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > GRAYSTV@xxxxxxx wrote: >> > > > > > we have a 35 " rca ctc169BG5 that shuts down very >> > > > > > intermitantly. >>like >> > > > > once >> > > > > > a day. 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