[TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re: intermittent rca
- From: "al m" <ampm@xxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 22:01:37 -0400
For a frikin dollar we have all this controversy????
Al Marquardt
ampm@xxxxxxx
Al Marquardt Electronic Repair
206 W Main
Girardville Pa. 17935
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry E" <videotech@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:40 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re:
intermittent rca
> Damon, and if it fails ten days after you return the set you have a pissed
> off
> customer who doesn`t believe you when you tell him it`s a different
> problem,
> "set was dead when you picked it up, set is dead again" you didn`t fix it
> right.
> How many times have we heard that one from a customer?????
> Makes more sense to replace it the first time around and keep a customer
> then to lose that customer doesn`t it ? Just my 2 cents, Larry E
>
> Larry Eastman
> American TV & Electronics
> Crystal River, Fl. 34428
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 8:43 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re:
> intermittent rca
>
>
>> Why NOT replace it,to avoid Returns ??? - Peggs
>>
>> Because by measuring the actual voltage on the diode, I can get a 2nd
> repair
>> about 9 - 12 months later, out of warranty. Orrrrrr I can replace it now
> and
>> avoid that callback......just depends on the actual voltage I see on my
>> meter.....if it's 13 Volts or higher I don't touch it.
>>
>> You know, that's like taking your car in for a radiator repair and the
>> guy
>> there throws in a battery because he knows it's going to fail.....and
>> charges you for it.....
>>
>> Damon Brunger
>> Telrad Electronics
>> Fort Wayne IN
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "peggs" <peggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:45 AM
>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re:
>> intermittent rca
>>
>>
>> > It's a $1 part.
>> > It fails frequently.
>> > Why NOT replace it,to avoid Returns ???
>> >
>> > Peggs
>> >
>> > At 06:02 AM 4/6/05, J. Knoll wrote:
>> > >I was doing that but after a few returns a month later after the
> original
>> > >repair I started replacing that diode automatically to avoid wasting
> time
>> > >with returns. I hate the 169 and the less time on the bench with one
> the
>> > >better.
>> > >Jay-Jays tv
>> > >On Apr 6, 2005 8:36 AM, Damon <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Actually I monitor CR4118's voltage to determine whether it needs
>> replaced
>> > > > or not.
>> > > > 14 volts -OK
>> > > >
>> > > > 12 Volts - Replace
>> > > >
>> > > > 10 Volts - Bad
>> > > >
>> > > > and there's a big wide replace area with skinny -OK / Bad sections
> if
>> you
>> > > > want to make a meter out of it....;-)
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes replacing CR4118 will cover a multitude of
> problems/intermittants.
>> > > >
>> > > > Damon Brunger
>> > > > Telrad Electronics
>> > > > Fort Wayne IN
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:58 PM
>> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re:
>> > > > intermittent rca
>> > > >
>> > > > > Please put Make, Model (or Chassis), and Problem in subject line.
>> Then
>> > > > email
>> > > > > can be filed Automatically, Thanks. CR4118 should go without
> saying.
>> Of
>> > > > > course it will fix intermittent operation. That is the first part
> we
>> > > > change
>> > > > > on all CTC169's regardless of customers problem. I would think
>> > > > > all
>> shops
>> > > > > would change this on all CTC169 repairs, we do, don't we?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Perry Bower
>> > > > > Electric Medic
>> > > > > "It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
>> > > > > http://www.electricmedic.com
>> > > > > 3850 Washington Road Suite 4C
>> > > > > Martinez, Georgia 30907
>> > > > > Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424)
>> > > > > Phone: 706-863-3474
>> > > > > Fax: 706-863-2316
>> > > > > mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Gary
> McCartney
>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 12:48 AM
>> > > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: intermittant rca
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Don't know if this will cure it but it has been recommended by
> many
>> > > > > techs to replace CR4118 (RCA # 164590 or FR302 generic)in every
>> CTC169
>> > > > > that comes into the shop, whether it appears to be OK or not.
>> > > > > This
>> diode
>> > > > > causes a lot of strange symptoms.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Gary McCartney
>> > > > >
>> > > > > McCartney Electronics
>> > > > > Guelph Ontario Canada
>> > > > > Est. 1984
>> > > > > email: gary (at) number63.ca
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > GRAYSTV@xxxxxxx wrote:
>> > > > > > we have a 35 " rca ctc169BG5 that shuts down very
>> > > > > > intermitantly.
>> like
>> > > > > once
>> > > > > > a day. I measured the b+ after it shutdown and it did not
>> > > > > > waver.
>> when
>> > > > it
>> > > > > > tried to turn on.otherwise i can't get a test. i have replaced
>> > > > > > c4102,c4108,c4104,c612,cr4401,c4406,cr4402, c4403, and c4404.
> does
>> > > > anyone
>> > > > > have any advice??
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > GraysTV/Glenn Gray
>> > > > > > Berlin Ht's.OH 44814
>> > > > > > Phone (419) 588-2325
>> > > > > > graystv@xxxxxxx
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > >
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