If you haven't done it yet sign up for chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx What a thread this has turned into. Max Bonnell Bonnell TV Robinson, IL Sender: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx From: ampm@xxxxxxx(al=A0m) Date: Wed, Apr 6, 2005, 10:01pm (CDT+1) To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re: intermittent rca Reply=A0to: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx For a frikin dollar we have all this controversy???? Al Marquardt ampm@xxxxxxx Al Marquardt Electronic Repair 206 W Main Girardville Pa. 17935 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry E" <videotech@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:40 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re: intermittent rca Damon, and if it fails ten days after you return the set you have a pissed off customer who doesn`t believe you when you tell him it`s a different problem, "set was dead when you picked it up, set is dead again" you didn`t fix it right. How many times have we heard that one from a customer????? Makes more sense to replace it the first time around and keep a customer then to lose that customer doesn`t it ? Just my 2 cents, Larry E Larry Eastman American TV & Electronics Crystal River, Fl. 34428 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 8:43 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re: intermittent rca Why NOT replace it,to avoid Returns ??? - Peggs Because by measuring the actual voltage on the diode, I can get a 2nd repair about 9 - 12 months later, out of warranty. Orrrrrr I can replace it now and avoid that callback......just depends on the actual voltage I see on my meter.....if it's 13 Volts or higher I don't touch it. You know, that's like taking your car in for a radiator repair and the guy there throws in a battery because he knows it's going to fail.....and charges you for it..... Damon Brunger Telrad Electronics Fort Wayne IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "peggs" <peggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:45 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re: intermittent rca It's a $1 part. It fails frequently. Why NOT replace it,to avoid Returns ??? Peggs At 06:02 AM 4/6/05, J. Knoll wrote: I was doing that but after a few returns a month later after the original repair I started replacing that diode automatically to avoid wasting time with returns. I hate the 169 and the less time on the bench with one the better. Jay-Jays tv On Apr 6, 2005 8:36 AM, Damon <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Actually I monitor CR4118's voltage to determine whether it needs replaced or not. 14 volts -OK 12 Volts - Replace 10 Volts - Bad and there's a big wide replace area with skinny -OK / Bad sections if you want to make a meter out of it....;-) Yes replacing CR4118 will cover a multitude of problems/intermittants. Damon Brunger Telrad Electronics Fort Wayne IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:58 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: [TechAssist]WHAT MODEL OR CHASSIS? Re: intermittent rca Please put Make, Model (or Chassis), and Problem in subject line. Then email can be filed Automatically, Thanks. CR4118 should go without saying. Of course it will fix intermittent operation. That is the first part we change on all CTC169's regardless of customers problem. I would think all shops would change this on all CTC169 repairs, we do, don't we? Perry Bower Electric Medic "It's Cheaper to Keep Her" http://www.electricmedic.com 3850 Washington Road Suite 4C Martinez, Georgia 30907 Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424) Phone: 706-863-3474 Fax: 706-863-2316 mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Gary McCartney Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 12:48 AM To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: intermittant rca Don't know if this will cure it but it has been recommended by many techs to replace CR4118 (RCA # 164590 or FR302 generic)in every CTC169 that comes into the shop, whether it appears to be OK or not. This diode causes a lot of strange symptoms. Gary McCartney McCartney Electronics Guelph Ontario Canada Est. 1984 email: gary (at) number63.ca GRAYSTV@xxxxxxx wrote: we have a 35 " rca ctc169BG5 that shuts down very intermitantly. like once a day. I measured the b+ after it shutdown and it did not waver. when it tried to turn on.otherwise i can't get a test. i have replaced c4102,c4108,c4104,c612,cr4401,c4406,cr4402, c4403, and c4404. does anyone have any advice?? GraysTV/Glenn Gray Berlin Ht's.OH 44814 Phone (419) 588-2325 graystv@xxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------- --- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Email List is Public. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/