[TechAssist] Re: 220v
- From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 20:54:33 -0500
Fuel cells are not exactly new. How long have they been working on them? 75
years? A hundred years?
Jerry Silverman
Greentron Inc
4 Newland Ave
Greenville SC 29609
864 232 3889
Fax 271 2080
mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:33 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
>
> Thats what they said when Microsoft was selling for under $2. Now there
> are very rich people that bought it at that price. It split many times
> and 100 shares then could be 6000 now plus the price is a whole lot
higher.
>
> Phillip R Hull
> phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edward Gaidies" <teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:28 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
>
>
> >
> > I'd like to Phil...but too risky for todays economy. If I did....I'd be
> > sleeping with Martha Stewart. These things sometimes don't pan out. Let
> the
> > government take the initative. The have money for other things, why not
> > better modes of power.
> >
> > -Ed-
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:11 PM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
> >
> >
> > >
> > > It takes money and the first units will be very expensive, and as
> fossil
> > > fuel increases in price the fuel cells/hydrogen Etc. will seem cheap.
I
> > > have already bought stock in some of these Co. I'm want to hit a new
> > > microsoft type Co. and make a ton. you should check out some of
> these
> > > Co. PRTN, HYGS, MKTY are just a few of them. They are mostly on the
> > auto
> > > fuel cell/hydrogen research side right now. You will probably have
to
> > wait
> > > a long time to reap any rewards that may or may not come.
> > > Phillip R Hull
> > > phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Edward Gaidies" <teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 2020 eh? I can't wait.
> > > > Technology is there now...why 2020.
> > > > Do we have to fight a few more "Oil Wars", till we wisen up. Or do
we
> > wait
> > > > till NASA de-classifies them? ;-)
> > > >
> > > > -Ed-
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:57 AM
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The US system may be better in the future, after 2020 we will
> start
> > > > > installing our own fuel cell system for our homes, and the wires
and
> > > poles
> > > > > will be long forgotten.
> > > > > Phillip R Hull
> > > > > phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Vilhelm Boor" <villyboor@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 7:59 AM
> > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Villy Boor
> > > > > > Boorelec Durban
> > > > > > I am shocked that I know more about your power supplies in
> North
> > > > > America than seemingly you its residents do. North America works
on
> > 110V
> > > > and
> > > > > you are stuck with that, tough its not as safe and losses are
> greater.
> > > Now
> > > > > you have a situation where you wish more voltage, you have to
cheat
> > The
> > > > > mains supply is 3 phase, it is usual to run a line down a street
and
> > try
> > > > to
> > > > > balance the power by having house 1 on phase 1 house 2 on phase 2
> etc.
> > > To
> > > > > get 220V you have to cheat, you use 2 phases so a plug has 2
live's.
> > But
> > > > why
> > > > > in the name of Freddy would we have to do that. Options on the
back
> of
> > > TVs
> > > > > have gone, that requires you have a mains transformer, costs money
> is
> > a
> > > no
> > > > > no. American TV is only viewable in America and a few other
> countries,
> > > the
> > > > > rest of us use the PAL system a much later and superior system, it
> > > follows
> > > > > then there is no requirement for your sets to work here or X. No
we
> > have
> > > > > standard 3 pin plugs (flat Pins pointing at 10 and 2 with an
unused
> > > earth
> > > > at
> > > > > 6) nominal fuse volta
> > > > > > ge
> > > > > > is 4A and there is no mystery
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:54:26
> > > > > > Julian Panizo wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >In the countries with 220-240 V many sets have the 110 V option
> via
> > > > > switch
> > > > > > >and a few have the voltage change automatic. The household
wiring
> > is
> > > > two
> > > > > (2)
> > > > > > >conductors, normally one hot and the other neutral, derived
from
> a
> > > > street
> > > > > > >trifasic supply. In a few countries you get in some places 220
> and
> > > > others
> > > > > > >110.
> > > > > > >Julian
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Julian Panizo
> > > > > > >C.C. 1867 Asunción Paraguay
> > > > > > >Phone/Fax 595 21 601913
> > > > > > >panizo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 8:41 PM
> > > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> We STILL have not answered the QUESTION. Does this guys set
> work
> > on
> > > > > > >> 220volts. He said the set worked on 110v but not properly on
> > 220v.
> > > I
> > > > > can
> > > > > > >not
> > > > > > >> believe that the set was designed to work on 220v using the
> same
> > > > power
> > > > > > >cord
> > > > > > >> that came with the set. Every 220v circuit I have seen here
in
> > the
> > > > > states
> > > > > > >> has a different cord (larger plug) with two hots. Is this
some
> > > > special
> > > > > > >> CTC187AD. I think this is important enough to answer. We all
> know
> > > > that
> > > > > 220
> > > > > > >> has to hots and a neutral, and 110 has one hot and a neutral.
I
> > am
> > > > > > >> interested how in the world he is plugging a CTC187 into a
220v
> > > > outlet.
> > > > > > >> Please someone, or the owner of the set EXPLAIN. Everyone
that
> I
> > > have
> > > > > seen
> > > > > > >> will smoke if you apply 220v. This is driving me crazy. Why
> would
> > > > > anyone
> > > > > > >> want to run his set on both 110v and 220v anyway? It seems to
> me
> > if
> > > > it
> > > > > > >> worked on 110v, that should be good enough. Very confused
here
> in
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> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > >> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Larry E.
> > > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:11 PM
> > > > > > >> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Tommy, their talking about European tv sets not North
American
> > > > > > >> Larry Eastman
> > > > > > >> American TV & Electronics
> > > > > > >> Crystal River, Fl. 34428
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > Guys...I really don't know what you mean when you talk abut
a
> > TV
> > > > > using
> > > > > > >> 220v.
> > > > > > >> > On a 120v line you have a hot side and a neutral (0 volts)
> > side.
> > > On
> > > > a
> > > > > > >240
> > > > > > >> > line you have two hot sides.....believe me it will let the
> > smoke
> > > > out
> > > > > of
> > > > > > >> yur
> > > > > > >> > power supply filters.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Tommy Herman
> > > > > > >> > Herman TV
> > > > > > >> > 250 School Ave SW
> > > > > > >> > Taylorsville N.C. 28681
> > > > > > >> > 828-632-5322 Voice
> > > > > > >> > 828-632-3880 Fax
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > If a TV requires 120 Watts of power, you could power it
with
> > > 120V,
> > > > 1
> > > > > Amp
> > > > > > >> > or 240V, 0.5A.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Gary McCartney
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > McCartney Electronics
> > > > > > >> > 7134 Fife Rd, RR 7
> > > > > > >> > Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4
> > > > > > >> > Fax: (519)821-1530
> > > > > > >> > email: gary (at) number63.ca
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >>Dear Villy,
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >>Most of us know that formula as P = IE. Since current is
> > > directly
> > > > > > >> >>proportional to voltage ( I = E/R), an increase in voltage
> > yields
> > > a
> > > > > > >> >>corresponding increase in current with R held constant. If
> > > current
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >> >>voltage are both doubled, power is increased by a factor of
> 4.
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >>If I'm wrong, please set me straight.
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >>Regards,
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >>Ken Smith
> > > > > > >> >>Gulf Technical Services
> > > > > > >> >>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
> > > > > > >> >>Gulf Breeze, FL 32563
> > > > > > >> >>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >>On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:03:37 0000 "Vilhelm Boor"
> > > > > <villyboor@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > >> >>writes:
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >>>Villy boor
> > > > > > >> >>> Boorelec Durban
> > > > > > >> >>> When I read some of this I am rather surprised, where
were
> > some
> > > > of
> > > > > > >> >>>you trained, what happened to Ohms law? Why 2 round
prongs.
> > Most
> > > > > > >> >>>countries use various combinations of flat pin at various
> > > angles,
> > > > > > >> >>>Round pins tended to have a bakelite body.
> > > > > > >> >>> But please remember W=IV so the greater V is the less I
> will
> > > be
> > > > so
> > > > > > >> >>>cables are lighter, plugs can be smaller and fuses lower
I.
> > > > Philips
> > > > > > >> >>>for example make a wide range of TV with an input
> requirement
> > of
> > > > > > >> >>>from 90V to 270V, just plug it in and its working. I am
> > > sometimes
> > > > > > >> >>>left speechless, this is your subject and livlihood, you
> must
> > > know
> > > > > > >> >>>basics.
> > > > > > >> >>>On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:43:29
> > > > > > >> >>> teltek2 wrote:
> > > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > > >> >>>>No...Their 220 does not requite a huge plug like your
> > > dryer..just
> > > > 2
> > > > > > >> >>>>
> > > > > > >> >>>round
> > > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Tommy Herman
> > > > > > >> > Herman TV
> > > > > > >> > 250 School Ave SW
> > > > > > >> > Taylorsville N.C. 28681
> > > > > > >> > 828-632-5322 Voice
> > > > > > >> > 828-632-3880 Fax
> > > > > > >> > hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> Larry Eastman
> > > > > > >> American TV & Electronics
> > > > > > >> Crystal River, Fl.
> > > > > > >> http://www.tvjunkyard.com
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