[TechAssist] Re: 220v
- From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 20:52:18 -0500
I think they should just build the synfuel plants they were planning in the
1970s, but this was politically upsetting to the countries that supply us
with oil so we went for the emergency reserve instead.
Jerry Silverman
Greentron Inc
4 Newland Ave
Greenville SC 29609
864 232 3889
Fax 271 2080
mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Gaidies" <teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:28 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
>
> I'd like to Phil...but too risky for todays economy. If I did....I'd be
> sleeping with Martha Stewart. These things sometimes don't pan out. Let
the
> government take the initative. The have money for other things, why not
> better modes of power.
>
> -Ed-
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:11 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
>
>
> >
> > It takes money and the first units will be very expensive, and as
fossil
> > fuel increases in price the fuel cells/hydrogen Etc. will seem cheap. I
> > have already bought stock in some of these Co. I'm want to hit a new
> > microsoft type Co. and make a ton. you should check out some of
these
> > Co. PRTN, HYGS, MKTY are just a few of them. They are mostly on the
> auto
> > fuel cell/hydrogen research side right now. You will probably have to
> wait
> > a long time to reap any rewards that may or may not come.
> > Phillip R Hull
> > phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Edward Gaidies" <teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 2020 eh? I can't wait.
> > > Technology is there now...why 2020.
> > > Do we have to fight a few more "Oil Wars", till we wisen up. Or do we
> wait
> > > till NASA de-classifies them? ;-)
> > >
> > > -Ed-
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:57 AM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The US system may be better in the future, after 2020 we will
start
> > > > installing our own fuel cell system for our homes, and the wires and
> > poles
> > > > will be long forgotten.
> > > > Phillip R Hull
> > > > phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Vilhelm Boor" <villyboor@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 7:59 AM
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Villy Boor
> > > > > Boorelec Durban
> > > > > I am shocked that I know more about your power supplies in
North
> > > > America than seemingly you its residents do. North America works on
> 110V
> > > and
> > > > you are stuck with that, tough its not as safe and losses are
greater.
> > Now
> > > > you have a situation where you wish more voltage, you have to cheat
> The
> > > > mains supply is 3 phase, it is usual to run a line down a street and
> try
> > > to
> > > > balance the power by having house 1 on phase 1 house 2 on phase 2
etc.
> > To
> > > > get 220V you have to cheat, you use 2 phases so a plug has 2 live's.
> But
> > > why
> > > > in the name of Freddy would we have to do that. Options on the back
of
> > TVs
> > > > have gone, that requires you have a mains transformer, costs money
is
> a
> > no
> > > > no. American TV is only viewable in America and a few other
countries,
> > the
> > > > rest of us use the PAL system a much later and superior system, it
> > follows
> > > > then there is no requirement for your sets to work here or X. No we
> have
> > > > standard 3 pin plugs (flat Pins pointing at 10 and 2 with an unused
> > earth
> > > at
> > > > 6) nominal fuse volta
> > > > > ge
> > > > > is 4A and there is no mystery
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:54:26
> > > > > Julian Panizo wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >In the countries with 220-240 V many sets have the 110 V option
via
> > > > switch
> > > > > >and a few have the voltage change automatic. The household wiring
> is
> > > two
> > > > (2)
> > > > > >conductors, normally one hot and the other neutral, derived from
a
> > > street
> > > > > >trifasic supply. In a few countries you get in some places 220
and
> > > others
> > > > > >110.
> > > > > >Julian
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Julian Panizo
> > > > > >C.C. 1867 Asunción Paraguay
> > > > > >Phone/Fax 595 21 601913
> > > > > >panizo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 8:41 PM
> > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> We STILL have not answered the QUESTION. Does this guys set
work
> on
> > > > > >> 220volts. He said the set worked on 110v but not properly on
> 220v.
> > I
> > > > can
> > > > > >not
> > > > > >> believe that the set was designed to work on 220v using the
same
> > > power
> > > > > >cord
> > > > > >> that came with the set. Every 220v circuit I have seen here in
> the
> > > > states
> > > > > >> has a different cord (larger plug) with two hots. Is this some
> > > special
> > > > > >> CTC187AD. I think this is important enough to answer. We all
know
> > > that
> > > > 220
> > > > > >> has to hots and a neutral, and 110 has one hot and a neutral. I
> am
> > > > > >> interested how in the world he is plugging a CTC187 into a 220v
> > > outlet.
> > > > > >> Please someone, or the owner of the set EXPLAIN. Everyone that
I
> > have
> > > > seen
> > > > > >> will smoke if you apply 220v. This is driving me crazy. Why
would
> > > > anyone
> > > > > >> want to run his set on both 110v and 220v anyway? It seems to
me
> if
> > > it
> > > > > >> worked on 110v, that should be good enough. Very confused here
in
> > > > Georgia.
> > > > > >>
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> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Larry E.
> > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:11 PM
> > > > > >> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Tommy, their talking about European tv sets not North American
> > > > > >> Larry Eastman
> > > > > >> American TV & Electronics
> > > > > >> Crystal River, Fl. 34428
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Guys...I really don't know what you mean when you talk abut a
> TV
> > > > using
> > > > > >> 220v.
> > > > > >> > On a 120v line you have a hot side and a neutral (0 volts)
> side.
> > On
> > > a
> > > > > >240
> > > > > >> > line you have two hot sides.....believe me it will let the
> smoke
> > > out
> > > > of
> > > > > >> yur
> > > > > >> > power supply filters.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Tommy Herman
> > > > > >> > Herman TV
> > > > > >> > 250 School Ave SW
> > > > > >> > Taylorsville N.C. 28681
> > > > > >> > 828-632-5322 Voice
> > > > > >> > 828-632-3880 Fax
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > If a TV requires 120 Watts of power, you could power it with
> > 120V,
> > > 1
> > > > Amp
> > > > > >> > or 240V, 0.5A.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Gary McCartney
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > McCartney Electronics
> > > > > >> > 7134 Fife Rd, RR 7
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> > > > > >> > Fax: (519)821-1530
> > > > > >> > email: gary (at) number63.ca
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >>Dear Villy,
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >>Most of us know that formula as P = IE. Since current is
> > directly
> > > > > >> >>proportional to voltage ( I = E/R), an increase in voltage
> yields
> > a
> > > > > >> >>corresponding increase in current with R held constant. If
> > current
> > > > and
> > > > > >> >>voltage are both doubled, power is increased by a factor of
4.
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >>If I'm wrong, please set me straight.
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >>Regards,
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >>Ken Smith
> > > > > >> >>Gulf Technical Services
> > > > > >> >>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
> > > > > >> >>Gulf Breeze, FL 32563
> > > > > >> >>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >>On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:03:37 0000 "Vilhelm Boor"
> > > > <villyboor@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >> >>writes:
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >>>Villy boor
> > > > > >> >>> Boorelec Durban
> > > > > >> >>> When I read some of this I am rather surprised, where were
> some
> > > of
> > > > > >> >>>you trained, what happened to Ohms law? Why 2 round prongs.
> Most
> > > > > >> >>>countries use various combinations of flat pin at various
> > angles,
> > > > > >> >>>Round pins tended to have a bakelite body.
> > > > > >> >>> But please remember W=IV so the greater V is the less I
will
> > be
> > > so
> > > > > >> >>>cables are lighter, plugs can be smaller and fuses lower I.
> > > Philips
> > > > > >> >>>for example make a wide range of TV with an input
requirement
> of
> > > > > >> >>>from 90V to 270V, just plug it in and its working. I am
> > sometimes
> > > > > >> >>>left speechless, this is your subject and livlihood, you
must
> > know
> > > > > >> >>>basics.
> > > > > >> >>>On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:43:29
> > > > > >> >>> teltek2 wrote:
> > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > >> >>>>No...Their 220 does not requite a huge plug like your
> > dryer..just
> > > 2
> > > > > >> >>>>
> > > > > >> >>>round
> > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Tommy Herman
> > > > > >> > Herman TV
> > > > > >> > 250 School Ave SW
> > > > > >> > Taylorsville N.C. 28681
> > > > > >> > 828-632-5322 Voice
> > > > > >> > 828-632-3880 Fax
> > > > > >> > hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> Larry Eastman
> > > > > >> American TV & Electronics
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