[TechAssist] Re: 220v

  • From: "Edward Gaidies" <teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:40:21 -0500

2020 eh? I can't wait.
Technology is there now...why 2020.
Do we have to fight a few more "Oil Wars", till we wisen up. Or do we wait
till NASA de-classifies them? ;-)

-Ed-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:57 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v


>
> The US  system may be better in the future,  after 2020 we will start
> installing our own fuel cell system for our homes, and the wires and poles
> will be long forgotten.
> Phillip R Hull
> phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vilhelm Boor" <villyboor@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 7:59 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
>
>
> >
> > Villy Boor
> >  Boorelec Durban
> >    I am shocked that I know more about your power supplies in North
> America than seemingly you its residents do. North America works on 110V
and
> you are stuck with that, tough its not as safe and losses are greater. Now
> you have a situation where you wish more voltage, you have to cheat The
> mains supply is 3 phase, it is usual to run a line down a street and try
to
> balance the power by having house 1 on phase 1 house 2 on phase 2 etc. To
> get 220V you have to cheat, you use 2 phases so a plug has 2 live's. But
why
> in the name of Freddy would we have to do that. Options on the back of TVs
> have gone, that requires you have a mains transformer, costs money is a no
> no. American TV is only viewable in America and a few other countries, the
> rest of us use the PAL system a much later and superior system, it follows
> then there is no requirement for your sets to work here or X. No we have
> standard 3 pin plugs (flat Pins pointing at 10 and 2 with an unused earth
at
> 6) nominal fuse volta
> >  ge
> >  is 4A and there is no mystery
> > --
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:54:26
> >  Julian Panizo wrote:
> > >
> > >In the countries with 220-240 V many sets have the 110 V option via
> switch
> > >and a few have the voltage change automatic. The household wiring is
two
> (2)
> > >conductors, normally one hot and the other neutral, derived from a
street
> > >trifasic supply. In a few countries you get in some places 220 and
others
> > >110.
> > >Julian
> > >
> > >Julian Panizo
> > >C.C. 1867 Asunción  Paraguay
> > >Phone/Fax 595 21 601913
> > >panizo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 8:41 PM
> > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> We STILL have not answered the QUESTION. Does this guys set work on
> > >> 220volts. He said the set worked on 110v but not properly on 220v. I
> can
> > >not
> > >> believe that the set was designed to work on 220v using the same
power
> > >cord
> > >> that came with the set. Every 220v circuit I have seen here in the
> states
> > >> has a different cord (larger plug) with two hots. Is this some
special
> > >> CTC187AD. I think this is important enough to answer. We all know
that
> 220
> > >> has to hots and a neutral, and 110 has one hot and a neutral. I am
> > >> interested how in the world he is plugging a CTC187 into a 220v
outlet.
> > >> Please someone, or the owner of the set EXPLAIN. Everyone that I have
> seen
> > >> will smoke if you apply 220v. This is driving me crazy. Why would
> anyone
> > >> want to run his set on both 110v and 220v anyway? It seems to me if
it
> > >> worked on 110v, that should be good enough. Very confused here in
> Georgia.
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> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Larry E.
> > >> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:11 PM
> > >> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Tommy, their talking about European tv sets not North American
> > >> Larry Eastman
> > >> American TV & Electronics
> > >> Crystal River, Fl. 34428
> > >>
> > >> Hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Guys...I really don't know what you mean when you talk abut a TV
> using
> > >> 220v.
> > >> > On a 120v line you have a hot side and a neutral (0 volts) side. On
a
> > >240
> > >> > line you have two hot sides.....believe me it will let the smoke
out
> of
> > >> yur
> > >> > power supply filters.
> > >> >
> > >> > Tommy Herman
> > >> > Herman TV
> > >> > 250 School Ave SW
> > >> > Taylorsville  N.C.  28681
> > >> > 828-632-5322 Voice
> > >> > 828-632-3880  Fax
> > >> >
> > >> > If a TV requires 120 Watts of power, you could power it with 120V,
1
> Amp
> > >> > or 240V, 0.5A.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Gary McCartney
> > >> >
> > >> > McCartney Electronics
> > >> > 7134 Fife Rd, RR 7
> > >> > Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4
> > >> > Fax: (519)821-1530
> > >> > email: gary (at) number63.ca
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >>Dear Villy,
> > >> >>
> > >> >>Most of us know that formula as P = IE.  Since current is directly
> > >> >>proportional to voltage ( I = E/R), an increase in voltage yields a
> > >> >>corresponding increase in current with R held constant.  If current
> and
> > >> >>voltage are both doubled, power is increased by a factor of 4.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>If I'm wrong, please set me straight.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>Regards,
> > >> >>
> > >> >>Ken Smith
> > >> >>Gulf Technical Services
> > >> >>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
> > >> >>Gulf Breeze, FL  32563
> > >> >>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
> > >> >>
> > >> >>On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:03:37  0000 "Vilhelm Boor"
> <villyboor@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >> >>writes:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>Villy boor
> > >> >>> Boorelec Durban
> > >> >>> When I read some of this I am rather surprised, where were some
of
> > >> >>>you trained, what happened to Ohms law? Why 2 round prongs. Most
> > >> >>>countries use various combinations of flat pin at various angles,
> > >> >>>Round pins tended to have a bakelite body.
> > >> >>>  But please remember W=IV so the greater V is the less I will be
so
> > >> >>>cables are lighter, plugs can be smaller and fuses lower I.
Philips
> > >> >>>for example make a wide range of TV with an input requirement of
> > >> >>>from 90V to 270V, just plug it in and its working. I am sometimes
> > >> >>>left speechless, this is your subject and livlihood, you must know
> > >> >>>basics.
> > >> >>>On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:43:29
> > >> >>> teltek2 wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>>No...Their 220 does not requite a huge plug like your dryer..just
2
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>round
> > >> >>>
> > >> >
> > >> > Tommy Herman
> > >> > Herman TV
> > >> > 250 School Ave SW
> > >> > Taylorsville  N.C.  28681
> > >> > 828-632-5322 Voice
> > >> > 828-632-3880  Fax
> > >> > hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > >> Larry Eastman
> > >> American TV & Electronics
> > >> Crystal River, Fl.
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