2020 eh? I can't wait. Technology is there now...why 2020. Do we have to fight a few more "Oil Wars", till we wisen up. Or do we wait till NASA de-classifies them? ;-) -Ed- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v > > The US system may be better in the future, after 2020 we will start > installing our own fuel cell system for our homes, and the wires and poles > will be long forgotten. > Phillip R Hull > phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vilhelm Boor" <villyboor@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 7:59 AM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v > > > > > > Villy Boor > > Boorelec Durban > > I am shocked that I know more about your power supplies in North > America than seemingly you its residents do. North America works on 110V and > you are stuck with that, tough its not as safe and losses are greater. Now > you have a situation where you wish more voltage, you have to cheat The > mains supply is 3 phase, it is usual to run a line down a street and try to > balance the power by having house 1 on phase 1 house 2 on phase 2 etc. To > get 220V you have to cheat, you use 2 phases so a plug has 2 live's. But why > in the name of Freddy would we have to do that. Options on the back of TVs > have gone, that requires you have a mains transformer, costs money is a no > no. American TV is only viewable in America and a few other countries, the > rest of us use the PAL system a much later and superior system, it follows > then there is no requirement for your sets to work here or X. No we have > standard 3 pin plugs (flat Pins pointing at 10 and 2 with an unused earth at > 6) nominal fuse volta > > ge > > is 4A and there is no mystery > > -- > > > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:54:26 > > Julian Panizo wrote: > > > > > >In the countries with 220-240 V many sets have the 110 V option via > switch > > >and a few have the voltage change automatic. The household wiring is two > (2) > > >conductors, normally one hot and the other neutral, derived from a street > > >trifasic supply. In a few countries you get in some places 220 and others > > >110. > > >Julian > > > > > >Julian Panizo > > >C.C. 1867 Asunción Paraguay > > >Phone/Fax 595 21 601913 > > >panizo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 8:41 PM > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v > > > > > > > > >> > > >> We STILL have not answered the QUESTION. Does this guys set work on > > >> 220volts. He said the set worked on 110v but not properly on 220v. I > can > > >not > > >> believe that the set was designed to work on 220v using the same power > > >cord > > >> that came with the set. Every 220v circuit I have seen here in the > states > > >> has a different cord (larger plug) with two hots. Is this some special > > >> CTC187AD. I think this is important enough to answer. We all know that > 220 > > >> has to hots and a neutral, and 110 has one hot and a neutral. I am > > >> interested how in the world he is plugging a CTC187 into a 220v outlet. > > >> Please someone, or the owner of the set EXPLAIN. Everyone that I have > seen > > >> will smoke if you apply 220v. This is driving me crazy. Why would > anyone > > >> want to run his set on both 110v and 220v anyway? It seems to me if it > > >> worked on 110v, that should be good enough. 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On a > > >240 > > >> > line you have two hot sides.....believe me it will let the smoke out > of > > >> yur > > >> > power supply filters. > > >> > > > >> > Tommy Herman > > >> > Herman TV > > >> > 250 School Ave SW > > >> > Taylorsville N.C. 28681 > > >> > 828-632-5322 Voice > > >> > 828-632-3880 Fax > > >> > > > >> > If a TV requires 120 Watts of power, you could power it with 120V, 1 > Amp > > >> > or 240V, 0.5A. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Gary McCartney > > >> > > > >> > McCartney Electronics > > >> > 7134 Fife Rd, RR 7 > > >> > Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4 > > >> > Fax: (519)821-1530 > > >> > email: gary (at) number63.ca > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote: > > >> > > > >> >>Dear Villy, > > >> >> > > >> >>Most of us know that formula as P = IE. Since current is directly > > >> >>proportional to voltage ( I = E/R), an increase in voltage yields a > > >> >>corresponding increase in current with R held constant. If current > and > > >> >>voltage are both doubled, power is increased by a factor of 4. > > >> >> > > >> >>If I'm wrong, please set me straight. > > >> >> > > >> >>Regards, > > >> >> > > >> >>Ken Smith > > >> >>Gulf Technical Services > > >> >>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway > > >> >>Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 > > >> >>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax) > > >> >> > > >> >>On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:03:37 0000 "Vilhelm Boor" > <villyboor@xxxxxxxxx> > > >> >>writes: > > >> >> > > >> >>>Villy boor > > >> >>> Boorelec Durban > > >> >>> When I read some of this I am rather surprised, where were some of > > >> >>>you trained, what happened to Ohms law? Why 2 round prongs. Most > > >> >>>countries use various combinations of flat pin at various angles, > > >> >>>Round pins tended to have a bakelite body. > > >> >>> But please remember W=IV so the greater V is the less I will be so > > >> >>>cables are lighter, plugs can be smaller and fuses lower I. Philips > > >> >>>for example make a wide range of TV with an input requirement of > > >> >>>from 90V to 270V, just plug it in and its working. I am sometimes > > >> >>>left speechless, this is your subject and livlihood, you must know > > >> >>>basics. > > >> >>>On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:43:29 > > >> >>> teltek2 wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>>>No...Their 220 does not requite a huge plug like your dryer..just 2 > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>round > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> > Tommy Herman > > >> > Herman TV > > >> > 250 School Ave SW > > >> > Taylorsville N.C. 28681 > > >> > 828-632-5322 Voice > > >> > 828-632-3880 Fax > > >> > hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> > ------------------------------------------ > > >> > Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: > > >> > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html > > >> > ------------------------------------------ > > >> > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > >> > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > >> > To CHANGE your email address, click here: > > >> > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Larry Eastman > > >> American TV & Electronics > > >> Crystal River, Fl. > > >> http://www.tvjunkyard.com > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------ > > >> Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: > > >> http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html > > >> ------------------------------------------ > > >> To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > >> http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > >> To CHANGE your email address, click here: > > >> http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------ > > >> Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: > > >> http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html > > >> ------------------------------------------ > > >> To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > >> http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > >> To CHANGE your email address, click here: > > >> http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > >> > > >> > > > > > >------------------------------------------ > > >Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: > > >http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html > > >------------------------------------------ > > >To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > >To CHANGE your email address, click here: > > > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. > > http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus > > ------------------------------------------ > > Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html > > ------------------------------------------ > > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > To CHANGE your email address, click here: > > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html > ------------------------------------------ > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > To CHANGE your email address, click here: > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > ------------------------------------------ Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html ------------------------------------------ To REMOVE your email address, click here: http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html To CHANGE your email address, click here: http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html