[TechAssist] Re: 220v
- From: "Vilhelm Boor" <villyboor@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 08:28:02 0000
Villy Boor
Boorelec Durban
I have to come back with a post script, To get voltage for a TV at over 200V
would require you to use a transformer. I am sure there could be other methods
using odd switching type devices but extremes of design like that would be
nonsense as it would be cheaper to get the correct model. I can not see where
the smoke would be derived if you stuck this on your TV as I am at a loss as to
how you would hook it up.
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 07:59:10
Vilhelm Boor wrote:
>
>Villy Boor
> Boorelec Durban
> I am shocked that I know more about your power supplies in North America
> than seemingly you its residents do. North America works on 110V and you are
> stuck with that, tough its not as safe and losses are greater. Now you have a
> situation where you wish more voltage, you have to cheat The mains supply is
> 3 phase, it is usual to run a line down a street and try to balance the power
> by having house 1 on phase 1 house 2 on phase 2 etc. To get 220V you have to
> cheat, you use 2 phases so a plug has 2 live's. But why in the name of Freddy
> would we have to do that. Options on the back of TVs have gone, that requires
> you have a mains transformer, costs money is a no no. American TV is only
> viewable in America and a few other countries, the rest of us use the PAL
> system a much later and superior system, it follows then there is no
> requirement for your sets to work here or X. No we have standard 3 pin plugs
> (flat Pins pointing at 10 and 2 with an unused earth at 6) nominal fuse volta
> ge
> is 4A and there is no mystery
>--
>
>On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:54:26
> Julian Panizo wrote:
>>
>>In the countries with 220-240 V many sets have the 110 V option via switch
>>and a few have the voltage change automatic. The household wiring is two (2)
>>conductors, normally one hot and the other neutral, derived from a street
>>trifasic supply. In a few countries you get in some places 220 and others
>>110.
>>Julian
>>
>>Julian Panizo
>>C.C. 1867 Asunción Paraguay
>>Phone/Fax 595 21 601913
>>panizo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 8:41 PM
>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
>>
>>
>>>
>>> We STILL have not answered the QUESTION. Does this guys set work on
>>> 220volts. He said the set worked on 110v but not properly on 220v. I can
>>not
>>> believe that the set was designed to work on 220v using the same power
>>cord
>>> that came with the set. Every 220v circuit I have seen here in the states
>>> has a different cord (larger plug) with two hots. Is this some special
>>> CTC187AD. I think this is important enough to answer. We all know that 220
>>> has to hots and a neutral, and 110 has one hot and a neutral. I am
>>> interested how in the world he is plugging a CTC187 into a 220v outlet.
>>> Please someone, or the owner of the set EXPLAIN. Everyone that I have seen
>>> will smoke if you apply 220v. This is driving me crazy. Why would anyone
>>> want to run his set on both 110v and 220v anyway? It seems to me if it
>>> worked on 110v, that should be good enough. Very confused here in Georgia.
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Larry E.
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:11 PM
>>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tommy, their talking about European tv sets not North American
>>> Larry Eastman
>>> American TV & Electronics
>>> Crystal River, Fl. 34428
>>>
>>> Hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>
>>> > Guys...I really don't know what you mean when you talk abut a TV using
>>> 220v.
>>> > On a 120v line you have a hot side and a neutral (0 volts) side. On a
>>240
>>> > line you have two hot sides.....believe me it will let the smoke out of
>>> yur
>>> > power supply filters.
>>> >
>>> > Tommy Herman
>>> > Herman TV
>>> > 250 School Ave SW
>>> > Taylorsville N.C. 28681
>>> > 828-632-5322 Voice
>>> > 828-632-3880 Fax
>>> >
>>> > If a TV requires 120 Watts of power, you could power it with 120V, 1 Amp
>>> > or 240V, 0.5A.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Gary McCartney
>>> >
>>> > McCartney Electronics
>>> > 7134 Fife Rd, RR 7
>>> > Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4
>>> > Fax: (519)821-1530
>>> > email: gary (at) number63.ca
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>Dear Villy,
>>> >>
>>> >>Most of us know that formula as P = IE. Since current is directly
>>> >>proportional to voltage ( I = E/R), an increase in voltage yields a
>>> >>corresponding increase in current with R held constant. If current and
>>> >>voltage are both doubled, power is increased by a factor of 4.
>>> >>
>>> >>If I'm wrong, please set me straight.
>>> >>
>>> >>Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >>Ken Smith
>>> >>Gulf Technical Services
>>> >>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
>>> >>Gulf Breeze, FL 32563
>>> >>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
>>> >>
>>> >>On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:03:37 0000 "Vilhelm Boor" <villyboor@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>writes:
>>> >>
>>> >>>Villy boor
>>> >>> Boorelec Durban
>>> >>> When I read some of this I am rather surprised, where were some of
>>> >>>you trained, what happened to Ohms law? Why 2 round prongs. Most
>>> >>>countries use various combinations of flat pin at various angles,
>>> >>>Round pins tended to have a bakelite body.
>>> >>> But please remember W=IV so the greater V is the less I will be so
>>> >>>cables are lighter, plugs can be smaller and fuses lower I. Philips
>>> >>>for example make a wide range of TV with an input requirement of
>>> >>>from 90V to 270V, just plug it in and its working. I am sometimes
>>> >>>left speechless, this is your subject and livlihood, you must know
>>> >>>basics.
>>> >>>On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:43:29
>>> >>> teltek2 wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>No...Their 220 does not requite a huge plug like your dryer..just 2
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>round
>>> >>>
>>> >
>>> > Tommy Herman
>>> > Herman TV
>>> > 250 School Ave SW
>>> > Taylorsville N.C. 28681
>>> > 828-632-5322 Voice
>>> > 828-632-3880 Fax
>>> > hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Larry Eastman
>>> American TV & Electronics
>>> Crystal River, Fl.
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