[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Tried and true way or do you go with your gut?
- From: "Kathaleen Strong" <inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'GSD list'" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:21:44 -0700
Ahhh. Texaco. What a dog.
I fondly remember going to Alice and Mary's. seeing all these lovely Texaco
progeny. loving the look of the dog. I said to them, why don't we try and
get him ready for a show. Mary said, "No way, that ***er. he'll get us all,
he'll just get us thinking it might happen, and then he'll just screw us
over". I said to them, what can it hurt to try?
So we met up for several weeks at handling class. Texaco and I working like
clockwork. Him moving out on the lead, looking stunning. Alice was getting
excited. Mary, still was reticent in her belief that it might be, but after
like the 4th time we worked him at work out. even she began to believe it
might be, maybe we could show this dog. I was feeling like a million bucks
that this dog might actually work for me.
So, we're all excited, and head to the Canadian National. In the open dog
class. Alice arrived with him in the morning he was supposed to show. We
went in the ring and he started out like he had at handling classes. looking
good, but not as exuberant as he had been. it went downhill from there with
me coaxing him along, and him running behind me.
When we came out of the ring, Mary just said what she had said in the
beginning, "That ****er!" . He was a very good producer though and
rightfully he got his ROM. What was more was that his kids and grandkids
were also pretty good producers. Every so often that attitude came back.
His grandson, Inflight's Fly So Free (sire of GVx Heaven Only Knows) was
much like him in that regard.
Kathaleen
From: Kay Reamensnyder Betty Doerpinghaus [mailto:bedkar@xxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:37 AM
To: Kathaleen Strong; uwish@xxxxxxxxxx; GSD list
Subject: RE: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Tried and true way or do you go with your
gut?
Well said, Kathaleen.
Conversely, there have been dogs that have not been so impressive
in the ring, that have been terrific producers....and they were missed
because no one got to see them in their natural element.
We both remember Clayfield Woodside Texaco....a very hadnsome dog,
well bred, that hated the ring. Those of us, in the Pacific NW, were lucky
enough
to see him at home. We bred two bitches to him and came away with 3
champions.
He earned his ROM/C with relatively few breeding. Unfortunately, by the
time
folks in the rest of the country became aware of his producing ability, it
was too
late. Those 2 breedings ( for us) produced offspring that have produced
champions in
every generation, plus ROM's and BISS/BIS winners.
There are just too many components to breeding to make a judgement on
"looks"
alone.
-Kay Reamensnyder and Betty Doerpinghaus
-Home of Bedkar German Shepherds
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> Behalf Of Barbara Galasso
>
> Have you ever seen a really nice looking male.........no let's say he's
> a stunning looking male.
> Thanks Barbara for a thought-provoking subject to focus our attention on
> what this list is supposed to be about.
>
> I personally would do a combination of things.
>
> If this dog was as stunning as you think he is, then there must be
something
> in that pedigree which allowed him to be whelped.
>
> I'd look at my bitch first. What areas does she need to be compensated in?
> Does this dog himself appear correct for these areas. Are you sure you're
> seeing the true dog, or has he been enhanced by the use of the lead,
> inventive handling and good management? Have you had your hands on him?
> Have you seen him move on a loose lead?
>
> If you're using the compensation theory of breeding, the next step is to
> move into the area of research on pedigrees. If the sire and dam of this
> dog are Champions, but "mediocre" champions, what's behind them? Is the
dog
> linebred, inbred, outcross? How would his pedigree compare to your bitch's
> pedigree?
>
> If after I had my hands on the dog, and after the research portion, I
think
> if his pedigree is as mediocre as you describe, and it didn't even
remotely
> match up somewhere with my bitch on a dog I liked, I probably would pass
on
> the dog.
>
> I also wouldn't allow titles to sway me -- there's some very nice animals
> who are titled who haven't got what it takes to be good producers because
> they are based on faulty pedigrees and there are some very nice animals
out
> there who haven't the bevy of titles to "prove" their worth yet their
> progeny speak extremely well for them. As long as we have judges who are
> going to continue to judge like they are now, the dogs with the natural,
> athletic ability of coordination, outreaching sidegait will not be the
dogs
> you see with big titles, but those dogs are still out there.
>
> Kathaleen
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