[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Tried and true way or do you go with your gut?
- From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Kathaleen Strong <inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, uwish@xxxxxxxxxx, GSD list <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, bedkar@xxxxx
- Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:46:59 -0700 (PDT)
Watching Alice try to get Texaco UP for the ring was something!!! She tried so
hard and the more she doubled the more he would ignore her. I thought at the
time that I could have made him preform. Then I bred Fairway's in the Ruff and
learned about what a really good dog will not do in the ring. :0) All you can
do is love them and use them in the breeding program. You always will keep an
eye out for the up yours attitude :0) Texaco was one beautiful male!!!
Ah memories,
Terry
--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Kay Reamensnyder Betty Doerpinghaus <bedkar@xxxxx> wrote:
From: Kay Reamensnyder Betty Doerpinghaus <bedkar@xxxxx>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Tried and true way or do you go with your gut?
To: "Kathaleen Strong" <inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, uwish@xxxxxxxxxx, "GSD list"
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 10:37 AM
Well said, Kathaleen.
Conversely, there have been dogs that have not been so impressive
in the ring, that have been terrific producers....and they were missed
because no one got to see them in their natural element.
We both remember Clayfield Woodside Texaco....a very hadnsome dog,
well bred, that hated the ring. Those of us, in the Pacific NW, were lucky
enough
to see him at home. We bred two bitches to him and came away with 3 champions.
He earned his ROM/C with relatively few breeding. Unfortunately, by the time
folks in the rest of the country became aware of his producing ability, it was
too
late. Those 2 breedings ( for us) produced offspring that have produced
champions in
every generation, plus ROM's and BISS/BIS winners.
There are just too many components to breeding to make a judgement on "looks"
alone.
-Kay Reamensnyder and Betty Doerpinghaus
-Home of Bedkar German Shepherds
-bedkar@xxxxx
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> Behalf Of Barbara Galasso
>
> Have you ever seen a really nice looking male.........no let's say he's
> a stunning looking male.
> Thanks Barbara for a thought-provoking subject to focus our attention on
> what this list is supposed to be about.
>
> I personally would do a combination of things.
>
> If this dog was as stunning as you think he is, then there must be something
> in that pedigree which allowed him to be whelped.
>
> I'd look at my bitch first. What areas does she need to be compensated in?
> Does this dog himself appear correct for these areas. Are you sure you're
> seeing the true dog, or has he been enhanced by the use of the lead,
> inventive handling and good management? Have you had your hands on him?
> Have you seen him move on a loose lead?
>
> If you're using the compensation theory of breeding, the next step is to
> move into the area of research on pedigrees. If the sire and dam of this
> dog are Champions, but "mediocre" champions, what's behind them? Is the dog
> linebred, inbred, outcross? How would his pedigree compare to your bitch's
> pedigree?
>
> If after I had my hands on the dog, and after the research portion, I think
> if his pedigree is as mediocre as you describe, and it didn't even remotely
> match up somewhere with my bitch on a dog I liked, I probably would pass on
> the dog.
>
> I also wouldn't allow titles to sway me -- there's some very nice animals
> who are titled who haven't got what it takes to be good producers because
> they are based on faulty pedigrees and there are some very nice animals out
> there who haven't the bevy of titles to "prove" their worth yet their
> progeny speak extremely well for them. As long as we have judges who are
> going to continue to judge like they are now, the dogs with the natural,
> athletic ability of coordination, outreaching sidegait will not be the dogs
> you see with big titles, but those dogs are still out there.
>
> Kathaleen
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