We have done breedings both ways - dog to dog and pedigree to pedigree, etc.. I have seen some wonderful dogs come from some mediocre pedigrees - do they reproduce? With the right bitches they do.. It took some sort of a pedigree to get this good dog, so there must be some good genes back there some where. Personally, I do seriously consider pedigrees as my experience in Dals and Flat-Coats have led me to believe that grandparents are more important than anything. Something to think about though is if you have a proven bitch, it might be worth doing a dog to dog breeding to see what you get - because as someone said.... You might always wonder and what's the worst that can happen - you put them all in pet homes.. And heck.... Even the best pedigrees do all "pet quality" litters. Jessica MacMillan Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com) & The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC) Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================