[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: DJD??
- From: "MORGAN LEWIS" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC)
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- Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:35:37 -0700
IF that is true, then why are we seeing so many coming back NORMAL on the 2nd
set of x rays??
Morgan Lewis, RPh.
Member GSDCA
President Last Hope of Georgia 501c3
"So Much to Do, So Little Time"
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On Mon, 7/21/14, Cyndi Flautt <caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: DJD??
To: "nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"<marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "gsd showlist"
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, July 21, 2014, 2:10 PM
UAP and OCD can be seen
easily on an X-Ray. FCP is more difficult... so the OFA
assumes that an elbow that has any bony changes at all, has
FCP... But since they can't actually see the FCP, they
name the secondary changes (DJD) If we did MRI's of
the elbow, all of those DJD diagnoses should ( in theory)
change to FCP.
I assume
someone did studies to verify what the OFA says... Would be
nice to know how many MRI's or surgery cases were
evaluated.
The OFA will
tell you that any DJD with negative UAP and OCD, is caused
by FCP.... But how do they really know???? I think they
err on the side of caution, which in their case is
understandable.
Cyndi Flautt
www.carettigsd.com
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> On Jul 21, 2014, at 12:15 PM, "Nancy
Harper Mulvaney " <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
> What would
happen at OFA if the dog/bitch x-rays were resubmitted a
few
> years later along with the original
film "proving no change" ?
>
This has been done with hip films - dogs rejected for an OFA
# at 2 years
> only to received an OFA
number 2 years later. !!!
>
> Nancy
>
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: DJD??
>
> YOU AND SEVERAL OTHERS HAVE HAD THE SAME
SITUATION; IF IT IS DJD; IT SHOULD
>
BECOME WORSE OVER TIME.
>
>
> Morgan Lewis,
RPh.
> Member GSDCA
>
President Last Hope of Georgia 501c3
>
"So Much to Do, So Little Time"
>
>
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> On Mon, 7/21/14, Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
> Subject: [
SHOWGSD-L ] Re: DJD??
> To: paravelgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx,
showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, July 21, 2014, 12:23 PM
>
> Had a similar
> experience.
> Had a
bitch years ago that our
> Vets ( who
X-rayed many OFA dogs) thought would clear OFA easily.
Came
> back as DJD on one
elbow. Had several Vets read the X-ray
including
> UCDavis, and the only thing
they could figure out that made OFA unhappy
> was that there was a tiny slight
"pimple"
> looking
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