I normally use it at 1:9. 1:30 seems quite diluted. I don't recall where I've used it more dilute than 1:20. Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 http://e.neilsen.home.att.net http://ericneilsenphotography.com > -----Original Message----- > From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Knoppow > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 4:40 PM > To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Toning Question > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeffrey Thorns" <puresilver@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:40 PM > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Toning Question > > > > So, how much do most people dilute KBT? I didn't see the > > dilution listed on the bottle. > > > > > Normally 1:30. The toner works very slowly at room > temperature so its usually heated to 100F in a water bath. > While I have toned many prints in KBT without a post > toning sulfite bath with no difficulty from staining it is > still recommended. Agfa recommends a 10% sulfite bath. I've > used stock Kodak Hypo Claring Agent successfully but have > not tested if it works as well diluted. > Both New Viradon and KBT are polysulfide toners. These > have the peculiar propertly of toning faster as they are > diluted or exhausted. That's why they tend to continue > toning in the wash unless the wash is very fast. The sulfite > bath stops this after toning. > Polysulfide (liver of sulfur) toner is one of the few > that tones all densities evenly so it can be used for > partial toning without split tones and with uniform image > protection. > As a general rule single bath toners are cooler (bluer) > than bleach and redevelop types. The color of the toned > image will depend on the nature of the original image but, > again a rule of thumb only, the warmer the original image > the more yellow it will be after toning. > Bleach and redevelop toners are recommended for cold and > neutral tone papers which may not show much color change > with single bath toners. However, one must tone completely > in them. It _is_ possible to delibrately split tone by not > bleaching completely. The remaining silver can be toned with > a different toner if desired. > The best source of practical toning information is _The > Photographer's Master Printing Course_ by Tim Rudman. This > has a wealth of data in it. > The curious thing is that my preference for Justin's > photo would be blue toning, probably a Gold toner, which is > both archival and more subtle than Iron-Blue. > --- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ========================================================================== > =================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your > account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you > subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.