[Precisionix-General] Re: Name change
- From: "Fergus Allan" <f_w_allan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <precisionix-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:09:11 -0000
I would suggest starting with a wiki so that the ideas can be coalesced.
Fergus
-----Original Message-----
From: precisionix-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:precisionix-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Sorensen
Sent: 15 August 2008 02:47
To: precisionix-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Precisionix-General] Re: Name change
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 17:25 -0700, Jared Hoover wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:29 AM, <jp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yes, multi=language is very important. I have been working on
> a system
> for allowing this easy change; but, i am very stressed to get
> many things
> done- for one: getting internet installed at my new
> apartment. . .
>
> > I'm suggesting that we target multiple languages (have it
> ask at grub
> > what language and in installer) and if the user is Chinese
> then they get
> > to a Chinese version of the website that would offer to
> install skype
> > and such for them.
> > As for the weaknesses mentioned below, I will address these
> in a latter
> > email (don't worry, it wont be that long).
> > On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 09:58 +0000, Fergus Allan wrote:
> >> Who is Chinese on this group? How many people?
> >>
> >> Off memory about 6 years ago (maybe more) the Chinese
> government started
> >> a
> >> project for linux. This was also part of a ploy to get
> lower Windows
> >> prices, but also, a serious use of linux. Lots of
> governments are
> >> seriously
> >> looking at linux. The French police and a few others have
> already
> >> migrated
> >> to it. (It was the same year Bill Gates visited downing
> street or there
> >> abouts).
> >>
> >> Remember there are 1.2B Chinese people, and a lot of very
> good
> >> programmers
> >> within that community. They are already Chinese distros of
> linux - but
> >> I
> >> cant read CJK (alright I know about 5 symbols out of a very
> large
> >> number).
> >>
> >> There are some weaknesses in linux, here is my list:
> >>
> >> 1: The linux community has a habit of trying to
> emulate the features
> >> in Windows. Its worst features.
> >>
> >> 2: The installation process is still poor, and very
> slow compared to
> >> Windows XP.
> >>
> >> 3: The performance is slow in a lot of respects.
> >>
> >> 4: Installing software is a nightmare compared to
> windows. I can
> >> often install small programs on windows. Linux tends to
> have very large
> >> dependencies.
> >>
> >> 5: The interdependencies in linux software is
> excessive. Its the
> >> biggest failure area, and I have frequently encountered
> circular
> >> dependencies or version incompatibilities.
> >>
> >>
> >> I installed freebsd 4.4 some time ago. I almost fell off
> my chair how
> >>
>
> fasthttp://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/080717-F-2907C-169.JPG
> >> it is. I installed 6. Its as slow as the rest.
> >>
> >> I don't know why the modern distros have become so slow.
> Remember,
> >> these
> >> used to run on 486 processors.
> >>
> >> Something else to throw into the mix, I used to have an
> Amiga 1000.
> >> (Still
> >> got it actually). It's power supply is 25 watts(input) and
> was produced
> >> around 1984.
> >>
> >> Even my super latest Intel 8300 laptop has a power supply
> of 150W
> >> (input).
> >>
> >> This does not even take into account improvements in
> rectifying
> >> electricity,
> >> so the computer end would be worse.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I think there needs to be a clear set of objectives.
> >>
> >> Sorting out the packages and dependencies would be an
> excellent step,
> >> but
> >> given the efforts else where, I think its a difficult
> problem.
> >>
> >>
> >> Fergus
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: precisionix-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:precisionix-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Robert
> >> O'Callahan
> >> Sent: 14 August 2008 05:32
> >> To: precisionix-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [Precisionix-General] Name change
> >>
> >> Andrew asked me to join this to suggest new names for the
> project. I
> >> think a linux distro could distinguish itself by courting
> Chinese
> >> desktop users. Right now, all (generalizations are
> generally accurate
> >> for the Chinese) Chinese desktop users run pirated copies
> of Windows.
> >> While, their government's claims that they are cracking
> down on piracy
> >> are unlikely, I think it still is an untapped linux desktop
> market.
> >> Just package emule, skype, and msn (all Chinese use these
> programs）
> >> compatible clients along with out-of-box tor, decent CJK
> fonts, and
> >> SCIM/SKIM, and it would be an easy sell as superior to
> Windows. This
> >> is the largest untapped Linux market. There would be some
> conflict
> >> over being unsanctioned by their government, but this just
> means our
> >> distro will be distrod via emule.
> >>
> >> This could still be a multilingual-supporting distro, but
> attracting
> >> Chinese users would be an easy way to make it successful.
> >>
> >> I don't care much for the name PrescioNix. I suggest
> Inschato, since
> >> everyone who I've ever mentioned that string to has
> commented how
> >> catchy it is. If you guys are interested in the Chinese
> tack, I
> >> suggest Kuai Long (Fast Dragon).
> >>
> >> -Rob
>
>
> I speak enough Chinese to get by. My girlfriend has a bachelors
> degree in Chinese and she has lived in Beijing for a semester before
> so she is pretty familiar with the cuture etc. If we need someone to
> write documentation or a website in Chinese she would be able to do
> that.
>
So lets just support multiple languages then? I was hoping to target
multiple user groups. We can certainly work on having things ready
Chinese and other languages to! and SCIM/SKIM support) we will need to
see what we can do about multiple languages and about how we can fit it
on a CD and such, maybe have a extra language disk? we will have to look
at other Linux distros and see what most users like, and base stuff like
this on it.
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